[cabfpub] Ballot Forum-XX: Update CA/B Forum Bylaws to version 2.3

[Ryan Sleevi]

Hi Dimitris,

There's a lot of changes here, and this will take us quite a bit of time to
digest.

I don't know that we're necessarily supportive of the "Full Member"
definition, and the implications that has. The implicit consequences of
treating Interested Parties as Members of the Forum is not what was
intended with the current Bylaws, as I understand it, and so it has
ramifications throughout. That is, our definitions have historically been
"Member, Associate Member, Interested Party" - with zero overlap. This
seems to redefine things to be "Full Member, Associate Member, Interested
Party", with using "Member" as the aggregate term for all three, and it's
unclear why that was necessary.

However, the biggest concern remains with the approach to the Chair / Vice
Chair making changes to "Informative" sections. We're tremendously
appreciative of your efforts here in finding a solution, and we're trying
to work through how best to propose changes that capture the intent. We're
very appreciative of the explicit attempt to limit the scope in sucha
manner.

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 6:15 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Public <
public at cabforum.org> wrote:

>
>
> I just received a comment that Section 2.3 point 7 also needs to precede
> all occurrences of "Member" with "Full", as Interested Parties are
> sometimes able to participate in Forum Teleconferences, etc, and so may
> affect the quorum without a corresponding ability to vote.
>
> So, I updated this paragraph to:
>
> "7.    A ballot result will be considered valid only when more than half
> of the number of currently active Full Members has participated. The
> number of currently active Full Members is the average number of Full Member
> organizations that have participated in the previous three (3) Forum
> Meetings and Forum Teleconferences."
>
> There is no need to circulate a new version yet. I'll wait for more
> feedback.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Dimitris.
>
> On 2020-02-27 8:51 μ.μ., Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Public wrote:
>
> Following up from the latest F2F meeting, I have prepared a ballot for a
> Bylaws update.
>
> I am looking for two endorsers.
>
> Thanks,
> Dimitris.
>
>
> *Purpose of Ballot:* The Forum has identified and discussed a number of
> improvements to be made to the current version of the Bylaws to improve
> clarity and allow the Forum to function more effectively. Most of these
> changes are described in the “Issues with Bylaws to be addressed
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EtrIy3F5cPge0_M-C8J6fe72KcVI8H5Q_2S6S31ynU0>”
> document.
>
> Here is a list of major changes:
>
>    1. Clarification of the use of the term “Member” so it is clear when
>    we discuss about all Forum Members (which includes Associate Members and
>    Interested Parties), and when we discuss about the “Full Members”.
>    2. Adding the term “Voting Representative” which is designated by each
>    Member. Only votes submitted by Voting Representatives will be considered
>    3. Replacing of the term “Forum wiki” with the properly defined term
>    “Member Web Site”
>    4. Removing references for Webmaster in the definition of “Public Web
>    Site” since it is repeated in section 5.2
>    5. New Photography Policy in Exhibit D
>    6. Clarification of 4.1 (2) that Forum Members nominate representatives
>    7. Allowing informative changes to Guidelines by the Chair or Vice
>    Chair
>    8. In 5.3.1 require that a Certificate Issuer is trusted in the
>    “latest” software produced by a Certificate Consumer
>
> *— MOTION BEGINS –*
>
> *Amendment to the Bylaws:* Replace the entire text of the Bylaws of the
> CA/Browser Forum with the attached version (CA-Browser Forum Bylaws draft
> v2.3.pdf).
>
>
> *— MOTION ENDS –*
>
> A red-line is also attached (CA-Browser Forum Bylaws draft v2.3
> redline.pdf).
>
> The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
>
> Formal discussion period:  (14+ days)
>
> Ballot Discussion Begins: March XX, 2020 19:00 UTC
>
> Ballot Discussion Ends: March XX, 2020 19:00 UTC
>
> Vote for approval (7 days)
>
> Ballot Vote Begins: TBD
>
> Ballot Vote Ends: TBD
>
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