[cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC4 - email and CAA CONTACT

Geoff Keating geoffk at apple.com
Thu Aug 9 08:55:00 UTC 2018

> On 8 Aug 2018, at 7:42 pm, Ryan Sleevi via Servercert-wg <servercert-wg at cabforum.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 10:30 PM Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek at digicert.com <mailto:tim.hollebeek at digicert.com>> wrote:
> From: mailto://tim.hollebeek@digicert.com <mailto://tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>
> To: mailto://sleevi@google.com <mailto://sleevi@google.com>
> To make it clear, I don’t think turning things into URIs adds value for customers.  E-mail addresses usually AREN’T in the form of URIs, as noted above.
> Except, again, this is dodging the point that Corey raised, and which you haven't at all addressed, in which you're proposing a form that leaves it entirely ambiguous to the CA, and subjective to their interpretation, as to the form - and ambiguous for customers.
> If your view is that you're being customer focused, then that's not really sustained by any of the positions being advocated here. The ambiguity you're arguing is a strength is going to lead to misissued certificates and confused customers.

I would encourage mailing list participants to remember that writing a ballot is a valuable contribution to the CABforum, and we should remember that list participants may have different strengths and not always be able to come up with perfect wording covering, for example, e-mail addresses as they have been developed over 40 years of the Internet.  At no point in this discussion has anyone actually proposed better wording than ‘valid e-mail address’ and so I really don’t think it’s fair to make comments like the above.

If it’s desired to further clarify, I would say ‘valid e-mail address as defined in RFC 5321 section 2.3.11’.  However I think this is unnecessary.
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