[cabfpub] Immense Organization Legal Names in EV certificates

Rick Andrews Rick_Andrews at symantec.com
Sat Sep 24 00:38:01 UTC 2016


Rich, the current case is from Germany but I don't think they're all from
Germany.

 

-Rick

 

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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Immense Organization Legal Names in EV certificates

 

Rick,
Is it Germany where you are running into this by chance?  It seems I've seen
similar though I don't think to the extreme of 200 characters (yet).  Thus
far I've generally been able to abbreviate down to 64, but that's probably
mostly luck.  Given some of the names I've had to deal with, I can see it
being a problem if they got even one word longer.  I'm in agreement with
you, so am also interested to see what others, especially those in Germany
and other areas with similar naming conventions, might think.
-Rich

On 9/23/2016 3:47 PM, Rick Andrews wrote:

Based on the last paragraph at EVG 9.2.1, I have a question about
non-material words in legal names that are impossible to fully capture in
any abbreviated form. We encounter legal names in excess of 200 characters.
In one general case, a portion of the name clearly marks the publicly known
part of the name and a portion of the name refers to a geographic
association to which the organization belongs but this is recorded in the
organization's full legal name. 
 
A literal example (made up): Symantec Corporation, a Certificate Authority
that is a Member of the CA/Browser Forum and Operates in the US, UK, EMEA,
and Asia Pacific Regions. I would propose that Symantec Corporation is
material and the rest is not because it does not identify a more specific
legal entity than Symantec Corporation. Therefore, non-material content
removed, the Organization attribute could contain Symantec Corporation.
 
Another: ABC Company, a licensed public accountancy practicing in the states
of New York, California, Delaware, and Nevada. That would be ABC Company.
 
The specific organizations subject to this situation are intentionally
abstracted by examples. Does anyone disagree with what's material and
non-material in these examples?
 
-Rick






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