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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>Rich, the current case is from Germany but I don’t think they’re all from Germany.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'>-Rick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> public-bounces@cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rich Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 3:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> public@cabforum.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Immense Organization Legal Names in EV certificates<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Rick,<br>Is it Germany where you are running into this by chance? It seems I've seen similar though I don't think to the extreme of 200 characters (yet). Thus far I've generally been able to abbreviate down to 64, but that's probably mostly luck. Given some of the names I've had to deal with, I can see it being a problem if they got even one word longer. I'm in agreement with you, so am also interested to see what others, especially those in Germany and other areas with similar naming conventions, might think.<br>-Rich<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On 9/23/2016 3:47 PM, Rick Andrews wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Based on the last paragraph at EVG 9.2.1, I have a question about<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>non-material words in legal names that are impossible to fully capture in<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>any abbreviated form. We encounter legal names in excess of 200 characters.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>In one general case, a portion of the name clearly marks the publicly known<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>part of the name and a portion of the name refers to a geographic<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>association to which the organization belongs but this is recorded in the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>organization's full legal name. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>A literal example (made up): Symantec Corporation, a Certificate Authority<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>that is a Member of the CA/Browser Forum and Operates in the US, UK, EMEA,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>and Asia Pacific Regions. I would propose that Symantec Corporation is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>material and the rest is not because it does not identify a more specific<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>legal entity than Symantec Corporation. Therefore, non-material content<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>removed, the Organization attribute could contain Symantec Corporation.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Another: ABC Company, a licensed public accountancy practicing in the states<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>of New York, California, Delaware, and Nevada. That would be ABC Company.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>The specific organizations subject to this situation are intentionally<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>abstracted by examples. Does anyone disagree with what's material and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>non-material in these examples?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>-Rick<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>