[cabfpub] Immense Organization Legal Names in EV certificates

[Kirk Hall]

Perhaps this?

At 80 letters, the longest word ever composed in German is Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft, the "Association for Subordinate Officials of the Head Office Management of the Danube Steamboat Electrical Services".

From: public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Rick Andrews
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 5:38 PM
To: Rich Smith <richard.smith at comodo.com>; public at cabforum.org
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Immense Organization Legal Names in EV certificates

Rich, the current case is from Germany but I don't think they're all from Germany.

-Rick

From: public-bounces at cabforum.org<mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org> [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Rich Smith
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 3:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Immense Organization Legal Names in EV certificates

Rick,
Is it Germany where you are running into this by chance?  It seems I've seen similar though I don't think to the extreme of 200 characters (yet).  Thus far I've generally been able to abbreviate down to 64, but that's probably mostly luck.  Given some of the names I've had to deal with, I can see it being a problem if they got even one word longer.  I'm in agreement with you, so am also interested to see what others, especially those in Germany and other areas with similar naming conventions, might think.
-Rich
On 9/23/2016 3:47 PM, Rick Andrews wrote:

Based on the last paragraph at EVG 9.2.1, I have a question about

non-material words in legal names that are impossible to fully capture in

any abbreviated form. We encounter legal names in excess of 200 characters.

In one general case, a portion of the name clearly marks the publicly known

part of the name and a portion of the name refers to a geographic

association to which the organization belongs but this is recorded in the

organization's full legal name.



A literal example (made up): Symantec Corporation, a Certificate Authority

that is a Member of the CA/Browser Forum and Operates in the US, UK, EMEA,

and Asia Pacific Regions. I would propose that Symantec Corporation is

material and the rest is not because it does not identify a more specific

legal entity than Symantec Corporation. Therefore, non-material content

removed, the Organization attribute could contain Symantec Corporation.



Another: ABC Company, a licensed public accountancy practicing in the states

of New York, California, Delaware, and Nevada. That would be ABC Company.



The specific organizations subject to this situation are intentionally

abstracted by examples. Does anyone disagree with what's material and

non-material in these examples?



-Rick



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