[cabfpub] Bylaw Amendments: Working Groups

Ben Wilson ben at digicert.com
Mon Nov 25 06:30:52 UTC 2013

Here is a redlined draft of Section 5.2.  It shows how draft and final agendas and meeting minutes for Working Groups would be deleted from subsections (a) and (b) of Section 5.2, and in subsection (e) it adds " Important updates regarding the status of Working Group activities (e.g. new or modified deliverables, work plans, meeting schedules, milestones, etc.)".

The intent of this revision to (e) would be the following would be publicly announced (instead of minor day-to-day activity of WGs):  major deliverables or changes in deliverables, a general workplan and meeting schedule (e.g. Tuesdays at 1600 UTC), and reaching major milestones.  With that change, I don't think any additional change to section 5.3 is necessary even though that section would still provide that "all substantial initial drafts" be made publicly available (that text is on the page after the one I'm sending) because I believe there is still enough flexibility, given the changes to be made in section 5.2, that an initial draft might not be considered "substantial," for instance, where a Final WG Draft is about to be published.    

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On 15/11/13 21:49, Ben Wilson wrote:
> Alternatively, we could delete the language above in 5.2 (a) and (b) 
> and also revise 5.2(e) and 5.3 to refer only to “Final Working Group 
> Drafts that have been approved for forwarding to the Forum as final Working
> Group product by two-thirds vote of WG members voting”).   

That sounds fine, as long as a copy of the latest draft of any document is available to any forum member on request. (This seems like a basic matter of politeness so I'm not sure if it's worth encoding into the

I think perhaps the membership needs to be aware at a high level of what documents a group is working on, so perhaps we should require a notification of the form: "The Performance Working Group has decided to produce two documents: recommendations for CAs and recommendations for server operators", or similar thing?

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