[cabf_governance] Draft email on new Server Certificate Working Group for editing

[Ben Wilson]

That's fine.  We're only making small steps at this point.  Everything will work itself out over the next few weeks.
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From: Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 5:02:18 PM
To: Ben Wilson; Tim Hollebeek; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List
Subject: RE: [cabf_governance] Draft email on new Server Certificate Working Group for editing

Ben – small pushback on your analysis.  You say that Entrust and DigiCert will be the only members of the SCWG – are you basing that on the fact that I’m named as initial Chair and you are named as initial Vice Chair?  If that’s your analysis – that only makes us officers in our personal capacity.  It does not make our companies members.

I think the SCWG membership status of our two companies is the same as that for all other Forum Members – our companies don’t become SCWG Members until we sign the IPRA and declare intent to participate.  Our status (yours and mine) as initial officers doesn’t give our companies any head start on membership or participation, in my opinion.

From: Ben Wilson [mailto:ben.wilson at digicert.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:20 PM
To: Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek at digicert.com>; Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <govreform at cabforum.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]RE: [cabf_governance] Draft email on new Server Certificate Working Group for editing

We need to have Server Certificate Working Group members or DigiCert and Entrust will be the only CABF members on July 3 .  I think that we need to send out an email telling people how they become members of the Working Group.  The Bylaws state, “[they must] have formally declared their participation in the CWG via the mechanism designated by the Forum prior to attending.”

But has the Forum designated the mechanism?

I was thinking members should be required to:


(1)    email the public list (or alternatively email the WG chair and vice-chair) and formally declare their participation in the Server Certificate Working Group;

(2)    subscribe to the mailing list - https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/servercert-wg; and

(3)    list their names here https://cabforum.org/wiki/Server%20Certificate%20Working%20Group as follows:
The following have formally declared their participation in the Server Certificate Working Group:
Name

Date of Declaration

Date of Withdrawal

Digicert, Inc.

28 June 2018


Thoughts?  Should I send this to the Management list and then follow up by sending this to the Public list?

Ben


From: Tim Hollebeek
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:01 AM
To: Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com<mailto:Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <govreform at cabforum.org<mailto:govreform at cabforum.org>>; Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com<mailto:ben.wilson at digicert.com>>
Subject: RE: [cabf_governance] Draft email on new Server Certificate Working Group for editing

This is the point I raised at the end of the call.  I think we may need to wait until July 3 to start transition actions, just so that it is clear that the new bylaws are in effect.

However this does not prevent us from discussing what those actions are in advance, so that we can proceed rapidly with them at the appropriate time.  This could include having a draft ballot of the election procedures that could be submitted as SCWG Ballot 1.

-Tim

I agree that the SCWG itself exists now, and you and I are Vice Chair and Chair, but we have no enumerated powers to start anything until July 3 – so maybe we rephrase the message that way, and again do nothing until July 3.
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