[Smcwg-public] Audit Schem of a S/MIME CA

陳立群 realsky at cht.com.tw
Wed Oct 21 18:17:57 MST 2020


 

if we setup a new intermediate S/MIME CA chains up to our Root with EKU such
as Secured Email, Client Authentication, Server Authentication. The S/MIME
CA’s CA certificate and EE Certificates will contain an
id-kp-emailProtection and Client authentication Extended Key Usage (EKU)
extension. From RFC 5280, this CA will not has the ability to issue SSL/TLS
certs.  Besides Web Trust for CA , will this new intermediate S/MIME CA need
to pass the Principles 4 of WebTurst for CA-SSL BR with Network Security
Audit (It corresponds to NETWORK AND CERTIFICATE SYSTEMSECURITY REQUIREMENTS
)?  For Google or Mozilla, they use EKU Chaining and from Mozilla policy
3.1.2.1,  the new intermediate S/MIME CA need not  pass the Principles 4 of
WebTurst for CA-SSL BR with Network Security Audit . But It is not clear in
Apple’s Root Program Policy. Does CISCO support S/MIME trust bit/EKU? 
 
But from Page 1 of these Network and Certificate System Security
Requirements (Requirements) , it said “it apply to all publicly trusted
Certification Authorities (CAs). Or Network and Certificate System Security
Requirements (Requirements) only apples to SSL CA. Principles 4 of WebTurst
for CA-SSL BR with Network Security Audit only applies to an intermediate CA
with CA certificates that contained anyEKU or without EKU but those
intermediate CA doesn’t issue SSL/TLS certificates.
 
 

               Li-Chun Chen

               

 

From: Jeff Ward <jward at bdo.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 4:59 AM
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Subject: [外部郵件] Re: [Smcwg-public] Audit Schem of a S/MIME CA

 

If the CA either issues or has the ability to issue SSL/TLS certs, baseline
requirements apply.   

 

Jeff Ward, CPA, CGMA, CITP, CISA, CISSP, CEH

National Managing Partner Third Party Attestation

(SOC/WebTrust/Cybersecurity)

314-889-1220 (Direct) 347-1220 (Internal)

jward at bdo.com <mailto:jward at bdo.com>  

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Subject: RE: [Smcwg-public] Audit Schem of a S/MIME CA 

 

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Dear Jeff,

 

      Thank you very much for your information.

 

      In the example diagram, issuing CA 2 would need to receive a Webtrust
for CA based on Microsoft Audit Requirements of Microsoft Trusted Root
Certificate Program. Issuing CA 2 need not to receive the Network Security
Requirements (Principle 4). Right?

 

 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/security/trusted-root/audit-requirements
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osoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fsecurity%2Ftrusted-root%2Faudit-requirements&data=02%7C0
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1kiw3GkM4VqhsdZ9QA%3D&reserved=0> 

 



 

 

      It is not clear about audit scheme for S/MIME CA from Apple’s root
program webpage https://www.apple.com/certificateauthority/ca_program.html
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M%3D&reserved=0>  and Chrome’s Root Certificate Policy
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olicy
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Feo%2BBCMMb2Aqg0E3noyQ%2F0GettuU%3D&reserved=0>  .

 

 

     Li-Chun Chen

     Chunghwa Telecom 

 

From: Jeff Ward <jward at bdo.com <mailto:jward at bdo.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:26 PM
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Certificate Working Group <smcwg-public at cabforum.org
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Subject: [外部郵件] RE: [Smcwg-public] Audit Schem of a S/MIME CA

 

In the example diagram, Issuing CA 2 would need to receive a WebTrust for CA
based on Mozilla policy 3.1.2.1.  

 



 

Jeff Ward, CPA, CGMA, CITP, CISA, CISSP, CEH
National Managing Partner Third Party Attestation
(SOC/WebTrust/Cybersecurity)
314-889-1220 (Direct)    347-1220 (Internal)
314-387-0189 (Mobile)
 <mailto:jward at bdo.com> jward at bdo.com

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There are some typo in previous e-mail, such as  “audit schema” should be
“audit scheme”,  “I wonder to know certificate consumers member and CPA
Canada’s opinion.” should be  “I wonder to know certificate consumers
members’ and CPA Canada WebTrust  Task Force’s opinion.”

 

Thanks. 

 

       Li-Chun

 

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Subject: [外部郵件] [Smcwg-public] Audit Schem of a S/MIME CA

 

I wonder the audit schema of an issuing CA issue S/MIME certificate as the
issuing CA 2 (S/MIME Certificates) in upper diagram of page 10 of WebTrust
for CA 2.2
(https://www.cpacanada.ca/-/media/site/operational/ms-member-services/docs/w
ebtrust/webtrust-for-ca-22.pdf?la=en
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nada.ca%2F-%2Fmedia%2Fsite%2Foperational%2Fms-member-services%2Fdocs%2Fwebtr
ust%2Fwebtrust-for-ca-22.pdf%3Fla%3Den%26hash%3D76D4C1F8363D563CE7FC09031E54
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&hash=76D4C1F8363D563CE7FC09031E54ACA2EBFE3E3A) .

 

>From the WebTrust for Certification Authorities - Audit Applicability Matrix
(https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/business-and-accounting-resources/audit-and-ass
urance/overview-of-webtrust-services/principles-and-criteria <https://nam05.
safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpacanada.ca%2Fen%2F
business-and-accounting-resources%2Faudit-and-assurance%2Foverview-of-webtru
st-services%2Fprinciples-and-criteria&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7C685fa
1eadc9e41e6072808d845c9b564%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C1%7C637
336079934753587&sdata=L5nxmlULugRu7zT7nR1j7gkNyxUA%2F6AAH9bcAy%2FR5SI%3D&res
erved=0>  ) or as attached file, this issuing CA2  (S/MIME Certificates)
belong to “Publicly-Trusted Commercial PKI - All other uses” or
“Publicly-Trusted Government PKI - All other uses” , so the audit scheme
should be RKGC, Key Protection and WebTrust.

 

But someone may argue as the Root CA in upper diagram of page 10 of WebTrust
for CA 2.2 has website and e-mail trust bits. The issuing CA 2 (S/MIME
Certificates should pass WebTurst for CA-SSL BR with Network Security Audit
Criteria Principles 4.  I see
<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cpaca
nada.ca%2F-%2Fmedia%2Fsite%2Foperational%2Fms-member-services%2Fdocs%2Fwebtr
ust%2Fwtbr-241-final--ssl-baseline-with-network-security-june-30-2019.pdf%3F
la%3Den%26hash%3D15117D0B4FB70FB113C7D1D88802A26FE820FB60&data=02%7C01%7Cjwa
rd%40bdo.com%7C685fa1eadc9e41e6072808d845c9b564%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8
543e3c%7C0%7C1%7C637336079934763536&sdata=PaOioIzEeszSLf2OPeRav4HjhbIfeVegL%
2BoOadBSmmY%3D&reserved=0> WebTrust Principles and Criteria for
Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with Network Security – Version
2.4.1 page 3. It said that  “However, the Network Security Requirements
(Principle 4) would apply to all CAs – Root CA, CA 1, CA 2, CA 3, and CA
4.”. Note that CA-3 is a S/MIME CA. 

                      

    I wonder to know certificate consumers member and CPA Canada’s opinion.


 

    Thanks.

 

          Li-Chun Chen 

          Chunghwa Telecom 

 

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