[Servercert-wg] Voting period begins: Ballot SC-066: Fall 2023 Clean-up v2

Thu Oct 19 12:20:01 UTC 2023

On 19/10/2023 2:55 μ.μ., Inigo Barreira wrote:
>
> Well, my interpretation is that this is not changing the ballot 
> itself, the redline still remains the same (there´s no change in that 
> redline) and only if this ballot passes, at the end, and before 
> publishing, and considered section 2.4, item 8, the chair of the CWG 
> can perform some changes that do not change anything without requiring 
> a ballot procedure, so I guess there´s nothing to vote/discuss there. 
> The change proposed by Ryan is just a simple issue with the format and 
> it´s not changing the content nor anything else.
>

In order to avoid these different interpretations, section 2.4 item 8 
has explicit language that says:

/"The set of changes are limited to: /

  * /The cover page,/
  * /The Table of Contents,/
  * /The year in the “Copyright” information,/
  * /Footers with page numbers,/
  * /Links to other sections within the document."/

The change you propose is outside this set.

Dimitris.

> *De:*Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <dzacharo at harica.gr>
> *Enviado el:* jueves, 19 de octubre de 2023 13:26
> *Para:* Inigo Barreira <Inigo.Barreira at sectigo.com>; CA/B Forum Server 
> Certificate WG Public Discussion List <servercert-wg at cabforum.org>
> *Asunto:* Re: [Servercert-wg] Voting period begins: Ballot SC-066: 
> Fall 2023 Clean-up v2
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> On 19/10/2023 12:43 μ.μ., Inigo Barreira via Servercert-wg wrote:
>
>     The voting period for this ballot has started. Note that
>     Inconsistent document formatting (Markdown vs PDF) · Issue #462 ·
>     cabforum/servercert (github.com)
>     <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fissues%2F462&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kboUaD8%2FdLXH6P3QmW%2B6rECbEqdShzBBOYInHj%2F%2FGtA%3D&reserved=0>
>     will be also included (it´s a format issue with no content change).
>
>
>
> Inigo,
>
> You started the voting period on a specific ballot that has a specific 
> redline 
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fcompare%2F90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kAryYtMgT1v17B59KXxWyeRIehz3ZzEwWmyoYHPWFXY%3D&reserved=0>. 
> That means you cannot make any changes without invoking a new 7-days 
> discussion period. Unfortunately, since you started the voting period 
> there is nothing you can do but either let the ballot fail or withdraw 
> it. Withdrawing a ballot is a new addition to the Bylaws in section 
> 2.3 (4)
>
>
>     A proposer may withdraw a ballot containing defective language at
>     any point during the voting period
>
>
>
> According to the Bylaws, the voting period ends 7 days after the 
> voting starts, so that would be 7 days from TODAY (2023-10-19), which 
> means that the voting ends at *2023-10-26*. The information at the 
> bottom of the page should have been updated.
>
> I'd appreciate a confirmation from at least another person that is 
> familiar with the Bylaws about whether my interpretation is accurate 
> or not.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Dimitris.
>
>
>
>
>
>     **
>
>     *Purpose of Ballot SC-66 v2*
>
>     This ballot proposes updates to the Baseline Requirements for the
>     Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates related
>     to the issues and typos that have happened due to the different
>     updates of the document. No new normative requirements are
>     introduced by the changes in this ballot.
>
>     Notes:
>
>      1. The majority of these issues have been documented in GitHub
>         and have therefore labeled as cleanup and have been the basis
>         for this update.
>      2. Some have been provided by emails to the CABF lists and
>         included in this reviewed version because were typos.
>
>     The following motion has been proposed by Iñigo Barreira of
>     Sectigo. And, endorsed by Aaron Gable of Let´s Encryptand Clint
>     Wilson of Apple.
>
>     *— Motion Begins —*
>
>     This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance
>     and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” (“Baseline
>     Requirements”), based on Version 2.0.1.
>
>     MODIFY the Baseline Requirements as specified in the following
>     Redline:
>
>     https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264
>     <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fcompare%2F90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kAryYtMgT1v17B59KXxWyeRIehz3ZzEwWmyoYHPWFXY%3D&reserved=0>.
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>     *— Motion Ends —*
>
>     This ballot proposes a Final Maintenance Guideline. The procedure
>     for approval of this ballot is as follows:
>
>     *Discussion (7+ days)*
>
>     •                     Start time: 10-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC
>
>     •                     End time: 17-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC
>
>     *Vote for approval (7 days)*
>
>     •                     Start time: 18-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC
>
>     •                     End time: 25-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC
>
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