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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/10/2023 2:55 μ.μ., Inigo Barreira
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Well, my interpretation is that this is not
changing the ballot itself, the redline still remains the
same (there´s no change in that redline) and only if this
ballot passes, at the end, and before publishing, and
considered section 2.4, item 8, the chair of the CWG can
perform some changes that do not change anything without
requiring a ballot procedure, so I guess there´s nothing to
vote/discuss there. The change proposed by Ryan is just a
simple issue with the format and it´s not changing the
content nor anything else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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In order to avoid these different interpretations, section 2.4 item
8 has explicit language that says:<br>
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<i>"The set of changes are limited to:
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<li><i>The cover page,</i></li>
<li><i>The Table of Contents,</i></li>
<li><i>The year in the “Copyright” information,</i></li>
<li><i>Footers with page numbers,</i></li>
<li><i>Links to other sections within the document."</i></li>
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The change you propose is outside this set.<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Dimitris Zacharopoulos
(HARICA) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a> <br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 19 de octubre de 2023 13:26<br>
<b>Para:</b> Inigo Barreira
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com"><Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com></a>; CA/B Forum Server
Certificate WG Public Discussion List
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] Voting period begins:
Ballot SC-066: Fall 2023 Clean-up v2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black">CAUTION: This email originated from
outside of the organization. Do not click links or open
attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the
content is safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19/10/2023 12:43 μ.μ., Inigo
Barreira via Servercert-wg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">The voting period for this ballot has
started. Note that </span><a
href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fissues%2F462&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kboUaD8%2FdLXH6P3QmW%2B6rECbEqdShzBBOYInHj%2F%2FGtA%3D&reserved=0"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span lang="EN-GB">Inconsistent
document formatting (Markdown vs PDF) · Issue
#462 · cabforum/servercert (github.com)</span></a>
<span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">will be
also included (it´s a format issue with no content
change).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Inigo,<br>
<br>
You started the voting period on a specific ballot that
has a specific <a
href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fcompare%2F90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kAryYtMgT1v17B59KXxWyeRIehz3ZzEwWmyoYHPWFXY%3D&reserved=0"
moz-do-not-send="true">redline</a>. That means you
cannot make any changes without invoking a new 7-days
discussion period. Unfortunately, since you started the
voting period there is nothing you can do but either let
the ballot fail or withdraw it. Withdrawing a ballot is a
new addition to the Bylaws in section 2.3 (4)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">A
proposer may withdraw a ballot containing defective
language at any point during the voting period <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
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According to the Bylaws, the voting period ends 7 days
after the voting starts, so that would be 7 days from
TODAY (2023-10-19), which means that the voting ends at <b>2023-10-26</b>.
The information at the bottom of the page should have been
updated.<br>
<br>
I'd appreciate a confirmation from at least another person
that is familiar with the Bylaws about whether my
interpretation is accurate or not.<br>
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<br>
Best regards,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Purpose of Ballot SC-66 v2</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">This ballot proposes updates to the
Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and
Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates
related to the issues and typos that have happened
due to the different updates of the document. No
new normative requirements are introduced by the
changes in this ballot.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Notes: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm" type="1" start="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">The
majority of these issues have been documented in
GitHub and have therefore labeled as cleanup and
have been the basis for this update.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Some have
been provided by emails to the CABF lists and
included in this reviewed version because were
typos.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">The following motion has been
proposed by Iñigo Barreira of Sectigo. And,
endorsed by Aaron Gable of Let´s Encrypt<span
style="color:red"> </span>and Clint Wilson of
Apple.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">— Motion Begins —</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">This ballot modifies the “Baseline
Requirements for the Issuance and Management of
Publicly-Trusted Certificates” (“Baseline
Requirements”), based on Version 2.0.1.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">MODIFY the Baseline Requirements as
specified in the following Redline: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">— Motion Ends —</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">This ballot proposes a Final
Maintenance Guideline. The procedure for approval
of this ballot is as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Discussion (7+ days)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">• Start time:
10-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">• End time:
17-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">Vote for approval (7 days)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">• Start time:
18-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-US">• End time:
25-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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