[cabfpub] Forum Ballot to Amend Server Certificate WG Charter

Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) dzacharo at harica.gr
Fri Oct 20 05:05:02 UTC 2023

Thanks Ben, happy to endorse.

One minor nit, since there is no longer a "transition" phase, we should 
probably remove the part about the quorum that says:

"For transition purposes, if three meetings have not yet occurred, 
quorum is ten (10)."


On 18/10/2023 7:50 μ.μ., Ben Wilson wrote:
> Thanks for your input, Dimitris.
> I've amended section 4.d. as proposed - 
> https://github.com/cabforum/forum/commit/c6850e24eb49d5cfcb00eae4d11e82544504bffb
> Thanks again,
> Ben
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 3:03 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) 
> <dzacharo at harica.gr> wrote:
>     Hello Ben,
>     At F2F58
>     <https://cabforum.org/2023/03/02/minutes-of-the-f2f-58-meeting-in-ottawa-canada-28-february-1-march-2023/>we
>     had a discussion about the lessons learned from ballot SC60
>     <https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/11-CABF_Lessons-learned-from-SC60.pdf>.
>     During that meeting, a proposal was made that seems to fix the
>     ambiguity of the current Bylaws.
>     In line 93 of the proposed ballot, it says:
>>     /**(d)** There is a mandatory six-month probationary period
>>     during which any representative of an Applicant must attend at
>>     least 30% of all SCWG teleconferences (not counting subcommittee
>>     meetings) and at least one SCWG face-to-face meeting (either
>>     physically or virtually). After successful completion of the
>>     mandatory probationary period and meeting all requirements of
>>     section 3(a) or 3(b), an Applicant may become a Voting Member, if
>>     the SCWG determines by consensus among the Members during a
>>     Meeting or Teleconference, or upon the request of any Member, by
>>     a Ballot among the Members, that the Applicant meets the
>>     requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b). Acceptance by consensus
>>     shall be determined, or a Ballot of the Members shall be held, as
>>     soon as the Applicant indicates that it has presented all
>>     information required and has responded to all follow-up questions
>>     from the SCWG and the Applicant has complied with the
>>     requirements of Section 5.5 of the CA/Browser Forum Bylaws./
>     Instead of:
>     /"or upon the request of any Member, by a Ballot among the
>     Members, by a Ballot among the Members, that the Applicant meets
>     the requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b)" /
>     please update to:
>     /"or upon the request of any Member that challenges the
>     Applicant's adherence to all of the requirements of section 3(a)
>     or 3(b), by a Ballot among the Members."/
>     I read the rest of the proposed changes and they look good. If you
>     are ok with the change above, HARICA would be happy to endorse the
>     ballot.
>     Best regards,
>     Dimitris.
>     On 13/10/2023 1:23 π.μ., Ben Wilson via Public wrote:
>>     All,
>>     I am planning to introduce a Forum ballot to amend the Server
>>     Certificate Working Group Charter.
>>     At a high level, here are some of the proposed changes:
>>       * Section numbering added
>>       * "Root Certificate Issuer" voting category removed
>>       * Membership requirements for Certificate Consumers added
>>       * 6-month probationary period prior to voting membership added
>>       * Voting percentages and quorum clarified
>>     Because there are numerous proposed changes, here are a diff and
>>     a blob for your review.
>>     https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...85e569a43a5a2c9e5e16ce8bf1e569a98cfbd720
>>     <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/goog_919727603>
>>     https://github.com/cabforum/forum/blob/BenWilson-SCWG-charter-1.3/SCWG-charter.md
>>     I look forward to your comments and suggestions.
>>     Thanks,
>>     Ben
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