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Thanks Ben, happy to endorse.<br>
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One minor nit, since there is no longer a "transition" phase, we
should probably remove the part about the quorum that says:<br>
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"For transition purposes, if three meetings have not yet occurred,
quorum is ten (10)."<br>
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<br>
Best,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/10/2023 7:50 μ.μ., Ben Wilson
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<div>Thanks for your input, Dimitris.</div>
<div>I've amended section 4.d. as proposed - <a
href="https://github.com/cabforum/forum/commit/c6850e24eb49d5cfcb00eae4d11e82544504bffb"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/cabforum/forum/commit/c6850e24eb49d5cfcb00eae4d11e82544504bffb</a></div>
<div>Thanks again,</div>
<div>Ben<br>
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3:03 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>
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Hello Ben,<br>
<br>
At <a
href="https://cabforum.org/2023/03/02/minutes-of-the-f2f-58-meeting-in-ottawa-canada-28-february-1-march-2023/"
moz-do-not-send="true">F2F58 </a>we had a discussion
about the <a
href="https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/11-CABF_Lessons-learned-from-SC60.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true">lessons learned from ballot SC60</a>.
During that meeting, a proposal was made that seems to fix
the ambiguity of the current Bylaws.<br>
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In line 93 of the proposed ballot, it says:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><i>**(d)** There is a mandatory
six-month probationary period during which any
representative of an Applicant must attend at least 30%
of all SCWG teleconferences (not counting subcommittee
meetings) and at least one SCWG face-to-face meeting
(either physically or virtually). After successful
completion of the mandatory probationary period and
meeting all requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b), an
Applicant may become a Voting Member, if the SCWG
determines by consensus among the Members during a
Meeting or Teleconference, or upon the request of any
Member, by a Ballot among the Members, that the
Applicant meets the requirements of section 3(a) or
3(b). Acceptance by consensus shall be determined, or a
Ballot of the Members shall be held, as soon as the
Applicant indicates that it has presented all
information required and has responded to all follow-up
questions from the SCWG and the Applicant has complied
with the requirements of Section 5.5 of the CA/Browser
Forum Bylaws.</i></blockquote>
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Instead of:<br>
<br>
<i>"or upon the request of any Member, by a Ballot among the
Members, by a Ballot among the Members, that the Applicant
meets the requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b)" </i><br>
<br>
please update to:<br>
<br>
<i>"or upon the request of any Member that challenges the
Applicant's adherence to all of the requirements
of section 3(a) or 3(b), by a Ballot among the Members."</i><br>
<br>
I read the rest of the proposed changes and they look good.
If you are ok with the change above, HARICA would be happy
to endorse the ballot.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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<div>On 13/10/2023 1:23 π.μ., Ben Wilson via Public wrote:<br>
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<div>All,</div>
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<div>I am planning to introduce a Forum ballot to amend
the Server Certificate Working Group Charter. <br>
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<div>At a high level, here are some of the proposed
changes:</div>
<ul>
<li>Section numbering added</li>
<li>"Root Certificate Issuer" voting category
removed</li>
<li>Membership requirements for Certificate
Consumers added</li>
<li>6-month probationary period prior to voting
membership added</li>
<li>Voting percentages and quorum clarified</li>
</ul>
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<div> Because there are numerous proposed changes, here
are a diff and a blob for your review.</div>
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<div><a
href="https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...85e569a43a5a2c9e5e16ce8bf1e569a98cfbd720"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...85e569a43a5a2c9e5e16ce8bf1e569a98cfbd720</a></div>
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<div><a
href="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/goog_919727603"
moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
</a></div>
<div><a
href="https://github.com/cabforum/forum/blob/BenWilson-SCWG-charter-1.3/SCWG-charter.md"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/cabforum/forum/blob/BenWilson-SCWG-charter-1.3/SCWG-charter.md</a></div>
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<div>I look forward to your comments and suggestions.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Ben<br>
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