[cabfpub] Final Minutes for CA/Browser Forum Teleconference - July 9, 2020

[Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)]

These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the 
subject of this message.*
*


    Attendees (in alphabetical order)

Adam Clark (Visa), Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Arno Fiedler (D-TRUST), 
Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton (Entrust Datacard), Chris McMillan 
(Visa), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (SecureTrust), Chris 
Kemmerer (SSL.com), Curt Spann (Apple), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris 
Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dre Aremeda 
(GoDaddy), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), 
Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Jeff Ward (CPA 
Canada/WebTrust), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), 
Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Mayur Manchanda (Visa), Michelle Coon 
(OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Patrick 
Nohe (GlobalSign), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Peter Miskovic 
(Disig), Rachel McPherson (TrustCor Systems), Rich Smith (Sectigo), 
Robin Alden (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Stephen Davidson 
(Digicert), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software 
AS), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla).


    Minutes


      1. Roll Call

The Chair took attendance.


      2. Read Antitrust Statement

The Antitrust Statement was read.


      3. Review Agenda, Assign Minute Taker

Tobi volunteered to take the minutes for July 23rd. No changes to the 
agenda were noted.


      4. Approval of minutes from previous teleconference

The minutes were already approved.


      5. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update

  * Excellent meeting on 1 July.
  * Starting to look at the migration of the mailers.  Making sure
    timing will not impact ballot voting
  * Had discussions about email reminders.  Looking at IETF model for
    how to think about improvements
  * Take a look at GitHub projects vs. Cello capabilities for feedback. 
    Ideally we have all the work being done in one place for 1)
    familiarity of tools and 2) ease of sharing between committees and
    subgroups
  * Looking at tools for auto publishing
  * Call out for any other documents we need to produce the same way
    with the same tool sets etc.
  * Next steps will be draft ballots as a result of any of these plans
  * There is a spirited discussion on the public list on listserv
    password reminder mails.  We decided to post info on the Wiki that
    will tell folks how to reset passwords.  We will also turn off the
    reminders and see if there is any problem form users with not
    receiving these reminders
  * Looking to how to solve the redline problem.  Looking at solutions
    to support pull requests
  * Ryan 3647 template is out there in GitHub.  Tim: thanks for everyone
    for getting this template out there.  Should we have separate
    sections to make it clear as to which docs have been adopted by
    ballots and which have not.  E.g. a section with official docs and
    another with “helpful” docs.   Dimitris also thanked everyone
    involved in this work and all the time it will save folks
  * Dean:  Josh, are you able to put changed names on the mailing list? 
    Josh:  He believe he did.  He will go back through his emails to
    double check for GoDaddy, SecureTrust and other changes that came int
  * Dimitris:  I believe all archives are public/open except for the
    management list.  FYI anyone can use “forgot password” and get their
    password back

<https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2020-May/000240.html>


      6. Code Signing Working Group update

  * Had a meeting out of cycle on 7 July.  Most of the meeting was going
    through the combined document and cleaning up a few minor issues
    that were still a bit confusing.  These will move to the parking lot
    list for future ballots
  * Discussion period for the ballot started this morning (9 July)
  * Another version of the document will be updating the format
  * Ultimately, we’ll have a single document that combines CS and EV CS
    requirements


      7.  S/MIME Working Group update

  * Stephen:  public list post announced passing of the charter and call
    for membership.  Any questions can be sent in reply or to Steven
    directly
  * In order to bootstrap we’ll have a period of soliciting interest. 
    22 July at 11am EDT will be the first meeting. On agenda will be to
    review the list of startup members and to vote on it.  We’ll need
    2/3rds of members to vote for it to pass.  The email sent out on the
    list has details on how to declare interest.  Certificate Consumer
    member definitions are included in these communications as is the
    definition of a Certificate issuer member and interested party member.
  * Some have sent in declaration of interest.  However, we have some
    companies that may be interested but are not aware.  Ask of CAs and
    Certificate Consumers to spread the word on the WG and to encourage
    membership
  * First meeting will discuss goals of the group and next steps.  Many
    elements of this WG will need to coordinate and leverage work form
    other WGs e.g. validation and the like
  * Dimitris pointed out that with the recent bylaw changes that new
    members must declare their official voting representatives.  Steven
    will make sure to clarify this requirement.
  * Double check that there is a way to bootstrap the WG email list and
    potential members are not going to the wrong lists for information
    or responses
  * Thanks to the infrastructure group for all the help in getting this
    WG set up for a success start!


      8. Approval of minutes from F2F 50

Minutes were approved.


      9. Decide about having F2F 51 virtual or not

Doug:  Given the COVID-19 situation we recommend that we cancel the f2f 
portion and go to full virtual meeting. Decision was made to make this a 
virtual meeting.


      10. Any Other Business

None


      11. Next call

The next call will take place on July 23, 2020 at 11:30am Eastern Time.


      Adjourned


      F2F Meeting Schedule:

  * 2020: October 20-22 (Virtual)
  * 2021: Feb-March San Jose, CA (Cisco), June – Poland (Asseco-Certum),
    October - Minneapolis (OATI)
  * 2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - [Open],
    October - [Open]

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