These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the
subject of this message.
Attendees (in alphabetical order)
Ben Wilson (Digicert), Bruce Morton (Entrust Datacard), Chris Kemmerer
(SSL.com), Daniela Hood (GoDaddy), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug
Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew
(D-TRUST), Gordon Bock (Microsoft), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), India
Donald (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Janet Hines (SecureTrust),
Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Kenneth Myers (US Federal PKI Management
Authority), Kirk Hall (Entrust Datacard), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa
Telecom), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mike
Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter
(SecureTrust), Rich Smith (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Shelley
Brewer (Digicert), Timo Schmitt (SwissSign), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera
Software AS), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla),
Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority).
Minutes
1. Roll Call
The Chair took attendance.
2. Read Antitrust Statement
The Antitrust Statement was read.
3. Review Agenda
No changes to the agenda.
4. Approval of minutes from previous teleconference
The minutes from the previous teleconference were approved and will be
circulated to the public list.
5. Forum Infrastructure Working Group update
Jos provided the update. Ballot Forum-10 has passed and the
Infrastructure Working Group will be converted to a Forum subcommittee.
The changes are already described in the ballot.
Converting the BRs to be "pandoc-friendly" was discussed in previous
meetings. Jos has created a red-lined version of how this would look
like and it was agreed to introduce these changes on a separate ballot
and not in the "cleanup" ballot. Dimitris asked if this "pandoc
friendly" view would be rendered correctly in the GitHub markdown
viewer. Jos replied that he does not expect any issues with that as
pandoc uses native features of markdown. He recommended members to check
the final result of that pull request and if there are no issues, Jos
can proceed with the ballot.
Jos mentioned that some maintenance work needs to take place on the
server hosting the mailing list and asked when would that be best to
happen. Reboots during voting periods should be avoided as much as
possible. Members did not raise concerns over discussion periods because
the proposer would be able to extend the discussion period for the time
that the mailing list is unavailable before starting the voting period.
As a general case, Jos recommended that we declare a maintenance window
on a monthly or quarterly basis on which day no voting can take place or
if it in the middle of a voting period, that day does not count (the
clock stops for 24 hours) for the 7-day voting period. That would be
helpful to perform the necessary maintenance work and not risk of
delivering people's votes. Ryan thought it was a great idea. Jos asked
if this proposal would require a ballot. Kirk mentioned that if we are
to add an extra day for voting as described and the Bylaws mentions 7
days, that would probably require a change in the Bylaws. The
alternative would require some coordination with the ballot proposers so
they don't start a voting period that includes the maintenance window day.
Ryan said that we need to communicate this as clearly as possible and
agrees with Kirk that adding a day would require a change to the Bylaws.
We do have a procedure on the wiki on how to prepare a ballot and all
the steps that take place, so this maintenance window "check" should be
described in that procedure. Members should be periodically "reminded"
of this maintenance window.
Wayne recommended we discuss this topic some more in the Infrastructure
Working Group/Subcommittee because there might be alternative options
that would be more flexible and solve the problem in better ways. He
recommended that someone should declare the beginning and end of
maintenance window to indicate that the mailing lists would be
"unreliable" even if no voting took place.
Jos agreed to send a start and stop of this month's maintenance window
and will bring it for discussion in the infrastructure subcommittee.
6. Code Signing Working Group update
Bruce mentioned that the WG did not have a meeting last week so there is
no report.
7. Follow-up on new S/MIME WG Charter
It seems that there is some interest for this WG to move forward, the
Forum received a question related to that. Dimitris will reach out to
Tim and ask if he has any plans to move this forward. If he is
overwhelmed with other work someone else should draft a charter and send
it for discussion. We need something for the F2F.
8. F2F 48 Agenda
The draft agenda is up on the wiki. Dimitris mentioned about the photo
policy to be discussed. He also reserved a slot to discuss about Bylaws
issues since there was no feedback on the mailing list. Members are
requested to check and propose new items to discuss at the F2F.
9. Any Other Business
None.
10. Next call
October 17, 2019 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.
Adjourned
*F2F Meeting Schedule: *
* 2019: November 5-7– Guangzhou (GDCA)
* 2020: Feb18-20 Bratislava (Disig), June – Minneapolis (OATI),
October – Tokyo (GlobalSign)
* 2021: Feb-March Dubai (DarkMatter), June – Poland (Asseco-Certum),
October [Open]
* 2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - [Open],
October [Open]
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