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These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in
the subject of this message.
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Attendees (in alphabetical order)</h2>
Ben Wilson (Digicert), Bruce Morton (Entrust Datacard), Chris
Kemmerer (SSL.com), Daniela Hood (GoDaddy), Dimitris
Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin
Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Gordon Bock
(Microsoft), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), India Donald (US
Federal PKI Management Authority), Janet Hines (SecureTrust),
Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Kenneth Myers (US Federal PKI
Management Authority), Kirk Hall (Entrust Datacard), Li-Chun
Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Michelle
Coon (OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor
Systems), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Rich Smith (Sectigo),
Ryan Sleevi (Google), Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Timo Schmitt
(SwissSign), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Trevoli
Ponds-White (Amazon), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US
Federal PKI Management Authority).
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Minutes <br>
</h2>
<h3> 1. Roll Call<br>
</h3>
The Chair took attendance.
<h3 class="MsoNormal">2. Read Antitrust Statement<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Antitrust Statement was read. </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">3. Review Agenda<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">No changes to the agenda.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">4. Approval of minutes from previous
teleconference</h3>
The minutes from the previous teleconference were approved and
will be circulated to the public list.<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3>5. Forum Infrastructure Working Group update</h3>
Jos provided the update. Ballot Forum-10 has passed and the
Infrastructure Working Group will be converted to a Forum
subcommittee. The changes are already described in the ballot.<br>
<br>
Converting the BRs to be "pandoc-friendly" was discussed in
previous meetings. Jos has created a red-lined version of how
this would look like and it was agreed to introduce these
changes on a separate ballot and not in the "cleanup" ballot.
Dimitris asked if this "pandoc friendly" view would be rendered
correctly in the GitHub markdown viewer. Jos replied that he
does not expect any issues with that as pandoc uses native
features of markdown. He recommended members to check the final
result of that pull request and if there are no issues, Jos can
proceed with the ballot.<br>
<br>
Jos mentioned that some maintenance work needs to take place on
the server hosting the mailing list and asked when would that be
best to happen. Reboots during voting periods should be avoided
as much as possible. Members did not raise concerns over
discussion periods because the proposer would be able to extend
the discussion period for the time that the mailing list is
unavailable before starting the voting period.<br>
<br>
As a general case, Jos recommended that we declare a maintenance
window on a monthly or quarterly basis on which day no voting
can take place or if it in the middle of a voting period, that
day does not count (the clock stops for 24 hours) for the 7-day
voting period. That would be helpful to perform the necessary
maintenance work and not risk of delivering people's votes. Ryan
thought it was a great idea. Jos asked if this proposal would
require a ballot. Kirk mentioned that if we are to add an extra
day for voting as described and the Bylaws mentions 7 days, that
would probably require a change in the Bylaws. The alternative
would require some coordination with the ballot proposers so
they don't start a voting period that includes the maintenance
window day.<br>
<br>
Ryan said that we need to communicate this as clearly as
possible and agrees with Kirk that adding a day would require a
change to the Bylaws. We do have a procedure on the wiki on how
to prepare a ballot and all the steps that take place, so this
maintenance window "check" should be described in that
procedure. Members should be periodically "reminded" of this
maintenance window.<br>
<br>
Wayne recommended we discuss this topic some more in the
Infrastructure Working Group/Subcommittee because there might be
alternative options that would be more flexible and solve the
problem in better ways. He recommended that someone should
declare the beginning and end of maintenance window to indicate
that the mailing lists would be "unreliable" even if no voting
took place.<br>
<br>
Jos agreed to send a start and stop of this month's maintenance
window and will bring it for discussion in the infrastructure
subcommittee.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">6. Code Signing Working Group update </h3>
Bruce mentioned that the WG did not have a meeting last week so
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">7.
Follow-up on new S/MIME WG Charter</h3>
<br>
It seems that there is some interest for this WG to move
forward, the Forum received a question related to that. Dimitris
will reach out to Tim and ask if he has any plans to move this
forward. If he is overwhelmed with other work someone else
should draft a charter and send it for discussion. We need
something for the F2F.<br>
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F2F 48 Agenda<br>
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<br>
The draft agenda is up on the wiki. Dimitris mentioned about the
photo policy to be discussed. He also reserved a slot to discuss
about Bylaws issues since there was no feedback on the mailing
list. Members are requested to check and propose new items to
discuss at the F2F. <br>
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Any Other Business</h3>
<br>
None.<br>
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Next call<br>
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October 17, 2019 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.
<h3 class="MsoNormal">Adjourned</h3>
<h3><b>F2F Meeting Schedule: </b></h3>
<ul>
<li>2019: November 5-7– Guangzhou (GDCA)</li>
<li>2020: Feb<font color="#ff0000"> <font color="#000000">18-20
</font></font>Bratislava (Disig), June – Minneapolis
(OATI), October – Tokyo (GlobalSign)</li>
<li>2021: Feb-March Dubai (DarkMatter), June – Poland
(Asseco-Certum), October <font color="#ff0000">[Open]</font></li>
<li>2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - <font
color="#ff0000">[Open]</font>, October <font
color="#ff0000">[Open]</font></li>
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