[cabfpub] Final Minutes for CA/Browser Forum Teleconference - May 2, 2019
Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)
dzacharo at harica.gr
Fri May 17 01:24:33 UTC 2019
These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the
subject of this message.
Attendees (in alphabetical order)
Antonio Perez (GoDaddy), Ben Wilson (Digicert), Chris Kemmerer
(SSL.com), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Devon O'Brien (Google), Doug Beattie
(GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST),
Frank Corday (SecureTrust), Geoff Keating (Apple), India Donald (US
Federal PKI Management Authority), Joanna Fox (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis
(Cisco Systems), Kenneth Myers (US Federal PKI Management Authority),
Kirk Hall (Entrust Datacard), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Mads
Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Michael Guenther (SwissSign), Michelle Coon
(OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko
Carpenter (SecureTrust), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rich Smith (Sectigo),
Robin Alden (Sectigo), Scott Rea (Dark Matter), Shelley Brewer
(Digicert), Tim Callan (Sectigo), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tim Shirley
(SecureTrust), Timo Schmitt (SwissSign), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon),
Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority).
1. Roll Call
The Vice-Chair took attendance
2. Read Antitrust Statement
The Antitrust Statement was read
3. Review Agenda
Today's Agenda was approved.
4. Approval of minutes from F2F 46 and previous teleconference
The minutes from the previous teleconference were approved and will be
circulated to the public list.
The minutes from F2F 46 were approved and will be posted to the public
5. Forum Infrastructure Working Group update
Jos reported that we are proceeding with the planned upgrade of the wiki
and other mailer services migration. Amazon has provided us with AWS
resources so we're able to spin up EC2 and S3 resources to support that
The wiki will be switching to read-only next week according to the
migration plan and move to its own system.
Kirk asked if this will be the same wiki platform or will members be
required to learn a new wiki. Jos responded that the interface of the
new wiki is very similar to the old one so it's not expected to be any
complicated. Just like the current one, there is a graphical interface
which helps updating pages and content on web pages. Jos also said that
when the migration is complete, he will ask for some time in an upcoming
call to demo the new wiki.
New credentials will be required and this will be based on the current
Kirk also recommended a creation or a reference to a "cheat sheet" for
those that might miss the demo on our next call.
Dean asked when is this migration expected to happen and Jos replied the
it will start Monday May 6th and hopefully end by Friday May 10th.
Dean asked members who are planning to attend the F2F in Thessaloniki to
register their names today because the wiki will not be editable next week.
Wayne asked about the mail system migration and Jos responded that it
will be migrated at the same time. The plan is to migrate the mailer
without creating an outage. Wayne's concern is when changing IP
addresses on mail servers, there is a chance for messages not being
delivered or getting bounced back. So we should avoid any voting being
scheduled for next week.
6. Code Signing Working Group update
Dean reported that the CSCWG had a call last week. Ben has drafted a
ballot to adopt the minimum requirements for code signing. Improvements
are already being gathered for the minimum requirements and the EV Code
7. Follow-up on new S/MIME WG Charter
Tim will provide a draft in a week or two.
8. Bylaws and existing SCWG Charter update ballot
Wayne mentioned that the ballot is in a pretty good shape and he spent
quite some time with Dimitris to create a clean redline version on
GitHub. During this process a new problem was discovered. When we moved
the membership criteria out of the Bylaws and into the Working Group
Charters, we moved the definitions of Root Certificate Issuers and
Certificate Issuers out of the Bylaws. This creates a potential problem
when voting at the Forum level because we lost the definitions for the
voting categories (Root Certificate Issuers, Certificate Issuers,
Certificate Consumers). So, we put the definitions back into the bylaws
to address this issue.
We also clarified that the voting rules of the Forum keep the same
membership category as in the Working Group. So a Certificate Consumer
in a Working Group will vote as a Certificate Consumer at the Forum
level, which is what we've been doing already.
Finally, there were some improvements in the formatting of the document
to resolve some markdown viewing issues.
The ballot is in the discussion period since last Friday and according
to our decision at the last F2F, we agreed to leave it open for
discussion at least 2 weeks before voting begins, so members that wish
to engage their legal counsels will have the time to do that. So, the
ballot will remain in discussion period for next week and if there are
no comments we will initiate the voting period after the e-mail
migration is complete. If anyone needs an extension please ask.
9. Any Other Business
10. Next call
May 16, 2019 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.
*F2F Meeting Schedule: *
* 2019: June 11-13, 2019 – Greece (HARICA), October 28-31– Guangzhou
* 2020: Feb18-20 Bratislava (Disig), June – Minneapolis (OATI),
October – Tokyo (GlobalSign)
* 2021: Feb-March Dubai (DarkMatter), June – Poland (Asseco-Certum),
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