[cabfpub] Final Minutes for CA/Browser Forum Teleconference - December 13, 2018

Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) dzacharo at harica.gr
Fri Jan 4 16:39:31 UTC 2019

These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the 
subject of this message.

    Attendees (in alphabetical order)

Anna Weinberg (Apple), Ben Wilson (Digicert), Bruce Morton (Entrust 
Datacard), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Daymion Reynolds (GoDaddy), 
Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Janet Hines 
(Trustwave), Fotis Loukos (SSL.com), Frank Corday (Trustwave), Geoff 
Keating (Apple), Gordon Bock (Microsoft), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), 
India Donald (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Iñigo Barreira (360 
Browser), Jeff Ward (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Joanna Fox (GoDaddy), Kirk 
Hall (Entrust Datacard), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Mahmud Khair 
(Trustwave), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mike Reilly 
(Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter (Trustwave), 
Peter Miskovic (Disig), Robin Alden (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), 
Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Tim Callan (Sectigo), Tim Hollebeek 
(Digicert), Tim Shirley (Trustwave), Tomasz Nowak (Opera Software AS), 
Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US 
Federal PKI Management Authority).


      1. Roll Call

The Chair took attendance

      2. Read Antitrust Statement

The Chair played back the Antitrust Statement.

      3. Review Agenda

Today's Agenda was approved.

      4. Approval of Minutes of previous teleconference

The minutes of November 29, 2018 teleconference were approved and will 
be posted to the Public list and the Public web site.

      5. Follow-up on new WG Charters

Ben reported that he has received several e-mails from other members 
that offered to assist. He expects to work on this topic during the 

      6. Forum Infrastructure Working Group update

There was no report from the Infrastructure Working Group because they 
didn't meet this week.

Ben brought up an issue related to a table with relevant compliance 
dates for Guidelines and in particular the Baseline Requirements section 
1.2.2. There is consensus among members that this table is "informative" 
but the contents of that table should probably be part of a ballot that 
introduces "compliance" deadlines or effective dates for some specific 

Dimitris mentioned that he and Wayne (as Chair and Vice-Chair of the 
Server Certificate WG) would notice if a proposer forgot to include 
updates on this table and inform the proposer to include that 
information in the ballot. Members should be aware of this practice and 
include updates to this table in their ballots.

Trev suggested that tables of sections 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 should be merged 
or table 1.2.2 should include the ballot number that introduces the 
time-sensitive compliance requirement.

Kirk mentioned that the reason for this separation was that one ballot 
might introduce several "compliance" dates therefore it needed to be 
added in a separate table.

Dimitris proposed that this is discussed in the servercert-wg public list.

      7. Ballot Status

        _Ballots in Discussion Period_

No ballots are in a Discussion Period.

        _Draft Ballots under Consideration_

No comments were made.

      8. Any Other Business

Dimitris announced the two confirmed Guest Speakers for the upcoming F2F 
meeting in Cupertino. They are:

  * Cy Khormaee from Google. He is the PM responsible for SafeBrowsing.
  * Ian Foster, also from Google, member of Google's Security Team who
    did the BygoneSSL related research.

Dimitris also mentioned that there is a candidate Member to host for 
Spring 2020 but more options are welcome, especially from Europe as that 
year already has a F2F scheduled in North America and one in Asia.

      9. Upcoming F2F 46 meeting March 12-14, 2019 (hosted by Apple)

Geoff mentioned that if Members need Apple to provide invitation letters 
for participants that seek an exit visa (or any visa), to send their 
information to Apple as soon as possible. Holidays are approaching and 
there might be delays.

Kirk contacted Apple representatives about the meeting venue and hotel 
reservations. He reported that the reservation for the meeting room can 
take place 3 months before the meeting, and it will take place either at 
the old or new Apple headquarters. Apple has made arrangements for a 
group hotel at a group rate which is at a walking distance from Apple's 
old headquarters. The Hotel accepts reservations that check-in on Monday 
and check-out in Friday but Kirk is working with Apple to see if they 
can extend this to cover both weekends before and after the meeting. 
More information will be sent to members and posted on the wiki 
regarding hotel reservations.

      10. Upcoming F2F 47 meeting June 11-13, 2019 (hosted by Harica)

Dimitris informed the Members that all travel information for F2F 47 in 
Thessaloniki, including hotel options, is available on the wiki for 
those who want to book early.

      11. Next call

January 10, 2019 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.


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