[cabfpub] Voting Begins: Ballot 224: WHOIS and RDAP

Moudrick M. Dadashov md at ssc.lt
Tue May 22 07:08:23 UTC 2018


SSC votes: "Yes".

If we ever have a (language improvement) contest, the one below should 
be the best candidate - significant improvement without changing a 
single word. Good job!

Thanks,
M.D.

On 5/22/2018 4:47 AM, Ryan Sleevi via Public wrote:
> Google votes YES.
>
> Noting, however, that despite the stated purpose of the ballot, there 
> is the risk that by being a selection of options, we will have the 
> unfortunately common risk of misreading it **incorrectly** as:
> "Retrieved (1) directly from the Domain Name Registrar or registry 
> operator via the protocol defined in RFC 3912, (2) the Registry Data 
> Access Protocol defined in RFC 7482, (3) or an HTTPS website"
>
> rather than the correct reading, which is:
> "Retrieved directly from the Domain Name Registrar or registry 
> operator via (1) the protocol defined in RFC 3912, (2) the Registry 
> Data Access Protocol defined in RFC 7482, (3) or an HTTPS website"
>
> This would ideally be resolved in a subsequent ballot as quickly as 
> possible, for the benefit of our non-native English speaking 
> participants in particular, and to ensure that it is clear and 
> unambiguous the expectation, despite being plainly stated in the 
> Purpose as to what the desired interpretation is. Ideally, such a 
> ballot would not express normative requirements in definitions, and 
> might otherwise use an explicit section to explain what process a CA 
> should use for the determination of this information, but for 
> expediency sake, clarifying in situ seems desirable.
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Wayne Thayer via Public 
> <public at cabforum.org <mailto:public at cabforum.org>> wrote:
>
>     Ballot 224: WHOIS and RDAP
>
>     Purpose of Ballot: The Registry Data Access Protocol (RDAP) is the
>     successor to WHOIS, and this ballot adds explicit support for RDAP
>     to the BRs by adding a definition of "WHOIS". The new definition
>     permits the use of the registry or registrar's web interface, and
>     requires WHOIS information to be retrieved directly from the
>     registrar or registry of the domain name.
>
>     The following motion has been proposed by Wayne Thayer of Mozilla
>     and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Adriano Santoni of
>     Actalis.
>
>     — MOTION BEGINS –
>     This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance
>     and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” as follows, based
>     upon Version 1.5.7:
>
>     In section 1.6.1, add the following definition:
>
>     WHOIS: information retrieved directly from the Domain Name
>     Registrar or registry operator via the protocol defined in RFC
>     3912, the Registry Data Access Protocol defined in RFC 7482, or an
>     HTTPS website.
>
>     In section 1.6.3, add the following references:
>
>     RFC3912, Request for Comments: 3912, WHOIS Protocol Specification,
>     Daigle, September 2004.
>
>     RFC7482, Request for Comments: 7482, Registration Data Access
>     Protocol (RDAP) Query Format, Newton, et al, March 2015.
>
>     — MOTION ENDS –
>
>     A comparison of the changes can be found at
>     https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/Ballot220...wthayer:Ballot224
>     <https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/Ballot220...wthayer:Ballot224>
>
>     The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
>
>     Discussion (7+ days)
>
>     Start Time: 2018-05-03  19:00 UTC
>
>     End Time: after 2018-05-15 19:00 UTC
>
>     Vote for approval (7 days)
>
>     Start Time: 2018-05-15  19:00 UTC
>
>     End Time: 2018-05-22  19:00 UTC
>
>
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