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    <font face="Cambria">SSC votes: "Yes".<br>
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      If we ever have a (language improvement) contest, the one below
      should be the best candidate - significant improvement without
      changing a single word. Good job!<br>
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      Thanks,<br>
      M.D.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/22/2018 4:47 AM, Ryan Sleevi via
      Public wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Google votes YES.
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        <div>Noting, however, that despite the stated purpose of the
          ballot, there is the risk that by being a selection of
          options, we will have the unfortunately common risk of
          misreading it **incorrectly** as:</div>
        <div>"Retrieved (1) directly from the Domain Name Registrar or
          registry operator via the protocol defined in RFC 3912, (2)
          the Registry Data Access Protocol defined in RFC 7482, (3) or
          an HTTPS website"<br>
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        <div>rather than the correct reading, which is:</div>
        <div>"Retrieved directly from the Domain Name Registrar or
          registry operator via (1) the protocol defined in RFC 3912,
          (2) the Registry Data Access Protocol defined in RFC 7482, (3)
          or an HTTPS website"<br>
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        <div>This would ideally be resolved in a subsequent ballot as
          quickly as possible, for the benefit of our non-native English
          speaking participants in particular, and to ensure that it is
          clear and unambiguous the expectation, despite being plainly
          stated in the Purpose as to what the desired interpretation
          is. Ideally, such a ballot would not express normative
          requirements in definitions, and might otherwise use an
          explicit section to explain what process a CA should use for
          the determination of this information, but for expediency
          sake, clarifying in situ seems desirable.<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 3:21 PM,
              Wayne Thayer via Public <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Ballot 224: WHOIS and <span
                    class="gmail-m_3728026185806746419m_-4056279355100754120gmail-il">RDAP</span><br>
                   <br>
                  Purpose of Ballot: The Registry Data Access Protocol (<span
class="gmail-m_3728026185806746419m_-4056279355100754120gmail-il">RDAP</span>)
                  is the successor to WHOIS, and this ballot adds
                  explicit support for <span
                    class="gmail-m_3728026185806746419m_-4056279355100754120gmail-il">RDAP</span>
                  to the BRs by adding a definition of "WHOIS". The new
                  definition permits the use of the registry or
                  registrar's web interface, and requires WHOIS
                  information to be retrieved directly from the
                  registrar or registry of the domain name.<br>
                   <br>
                  The following motion has been proposed by Wayne Thayer
                  of Mozilla and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert
                  and Adriano Santoni of Actalis.<br>
                   <br>
                  — MOTION BEGINS –<br>
                  This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for
                  the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted
                  Certificates” as follows, based upon Version 1.5.7:<br>
                  <br>
                  In section 1.6.1, add the following definition:<br>
                  <br>
                  WHOIS: information retrieved directly from the Domain
                  Name Registrar or registry operator via the protocol
                  defined in RFC 3912, the Registry Data Access Protocol
                  defined in RFC 7482, or an HTTPS website. <br>
                  <br>
                  In section 1.6.3, add the following references:<br>
                  <br>
                  RFC3912, Request for Comments: 3912, WHOIS Protocol
                  Specification, Daigle, September 2004. <br>
                  <br>
                  RFC7482, Request for Comments: 7482, Registration Data
                  Access Protocol (<span
                    class="gmail-m_3728026185806746419m_-4056279355100754120gmail-il">RDAP</span>)
                  Query Format, Newton, et al, March 2015. <br>
                  <br>
                  — MOTION ENDS –<br>
                   <br>
                  A comparison of the changes can be found at <a
href="https://github.com/cabforum/documents/compare/Ballot220...wthayer:Ballot224"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/cabforum/<wbr>documents/compare/Ballot220...<wbr>wthayer:Ballot224</a><br>
                  <br>
                  The procedure for approval of this ballot is as
                  follows:<br>
                   <br>
                  Discussion (7+ days)<br>
                   <br>
                  Start Time: 2018-05-03  19:00 UTC<br>
                   <br>
                  End Time: after 2018-05-15 19:00 UTC<br>
                   <br>
                  Vote for approval (7 days)<br>
                   <br>
                  Start Time: 2018-05-15  19:00 UTC<br>
                   <br>
                  End Time: 2018-05-22  19:00 UTC
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