[cabfpub] Limitation of Liability and Indemnification
Moudrick M. Dadashov
md at ssc.lt
Thu Oct 12 15:11:10 MST 2017
BR/EVG --> Webtrust/ETSI schemes --> *Root Store schemes* --> Audit
report --> CP/CPS --> Binding RPA/Subscriber Agreement
On 10/13/2017 12:58 AM, Ryan Sleevi via Public wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Virginia Fournier via Public
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> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 00:18:33 +0300
> From: "Moudrick M. Dadashov" <md at ssc.lt <mailto:md at ssc.lt>>
> To: Virginia Fournier via Public <public at cabforum.org
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> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Limitation of Liability and Indemnification
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> Could you please explain why you think BR and EV Requirements are
> binding on members of the Forum?
> Hi M.D.
> I can see why this would be hard to understand.
> Entities who are not members of the Forum have nothing that would
> legally bind them to abide by those limitations. They aren’t
> members, so they aren’t bound by any of the Forum documents -
> Bylaws, Baseline Requirements, etc. They don’t have a written
> agreement with the Forum to abide by certain requirements, so
> they’re not bound that way either.
> Members of the Forum also aren't bound to abide by the Baseline
> Given this, does that resolve your concern?
> The best way to make the limitations binding on the Subscribers,
> Relying Parties, etc. would be for the CAs to enter into
> agreements with those parties, and try to get them to agree to the
> limitations. But, again, they could just ignore the limitations.
> Perhaps phrased differently - the BRs describe what such agreements
> MUST and SHOULD contain. This is allowing a further modification (a
> MAY) to such agreements. The enforcement and requirement that CAs
> agreements do or do not contain such provisions is done by the root
> stores that individual CAs partner with - not by the Forum.
> No member of the Forum is bound to abide by the Baseline Requirements
> by the Forum. The only document any member is bound to is to the IPR
> policy (as per the mutual contracts signed).
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