[cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements

Dean Coclin Dean_Coclin at symantec.com
Mon Aug 21 19:28:45 UTC 2017


I think it’s important to have effective dates in the ballots. This one isn’t that important but for others, I think it would benefit all to have it explicitly stated.

Dean

From: Kirk Hall [mailto:Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com]
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Subject: RE: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements

I would expect 30 days after passing (following completion of IP review)

From: Dean Coclin [mailto:Dean_Coclin at symantec.com]
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Subject: RE: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements

What is the effective date?

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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements

Hi Kirk,

It may be subtle, but the ballot purpose captured it "to make the formal name of the Baseline Requirements document clear, as use is not currently consistent"

As noted, the use of terminology is not consistent, throughout the document or our other documents. This offers the editorial flexibility when integrating changes to harmonize that, without having to have a giant ballot to do so once, and then ensure the need to police every ballot afterwards to ensure they maintain the same internal and external consistency.

It also provides a stable reference name for external documents (whether ETSI, WebTrust, or the EVGs) to reference these and ensure there's no confusion about 'which' baseline requirements these are.

As you're fond of suggesting editorial leeway, this formalizes it in a Ballot for the specific case of the document name - across all of our documents (c.f. "Editors and maintainers of CAB Forum documents and websites are empowered to update text under their control at any time to make this so.")



On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <public at cabforum.org<mailto:public at cabforum.org>> wrote:
Gerv, I was asked by my team “what problem is this ballot solving”?  Not in opposition, but just wondering why we need it?

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Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements

Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements

Purpose of Ballot: to make the formal name of the Baseline Requirements document clear, as use is not currently consistent.

The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and endorsed by Jeremy Rowley of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:

-- MOTION BEGINS --

The official name of the Baseline Requirements document shall be 'The Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates'. Approved abbreviations for official use are "the Baseline Requirements", and "the BRs".

Editors and maintainers of CAB Forum documents and websites are empowered to update text under their control at any time to make this so.

-- MOTION ENDS --

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:


Start time (22:00 UTC)


End time (22:00 UTC)


Discussion (7 to 14 days)


18 Aug


25 Aug


Vote for approval (7 days)


25 Aug

1 Sep



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