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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think it’s important to have effective dates in the ballots. This one isn’t that important but for others, I think it would benefit all to have it explicitly
stated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Kirk Hall [mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 21, 2017 2:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dean Coclin <Dean_Coclin@symantec.com>; Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I would expect 30 days after passing (following completion of IP review)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Dean Coclin [<a href="mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com">mailto:Dean_Coclin@symantec.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 21, 2017 11:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com">sleevi@google.com</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>>; Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">What is the effective date?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Sleevi via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 21, 2017 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kirk,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It may be subtle, but the ballot purpose captured it "<span style="font-size:9.5pt">to make the formal name of the Baseline Requirements document clear, as use is not currently consistent"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">As noted, the use of terminology is not consistent, throughout the document or our other documents. This offers the editorial flexibility when integrating changes to harmonize that, without having to have a
giant ballot to do so once, and then ensure the need to police every ballot afterwards to ensure they maintain the same internal and external consistency.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">It also provides a stable reference name for external documents (whether ETSI, WebTrust, or the EVGs) to reference these and ensure there's no confusion about 'which' baseline requirements these are.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">As you're fond of suggesting editorial leeway, this formalizes it in a Ballot for the specific case of the document name - across all of our documents (c.f. "Editors and maintainers of CAB Forum documents and
websites are empowered to update text under their control at any time to make this so.")</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Gerv, I was asked by my team “what problem is this ballot solving”? Not in opposition, but just wondering
why we need it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Public [mailto:<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gervase Markham via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 18, 2017 8:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CABFPub <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><strong>Ballot 212: Canonicalise formal name of the Baseline Requirements</strong>
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<p class="m1986383667809338524line874">Purpose of Ballot: to make the formal name of the Baseline Requirements document clear, as use is not currently consistent.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m1986383667809338524line874">The following motion has been proposed by Gervase Markham of Mozilla and endorsed by Jeremy Rowley of DigiCert and Ryan Sleevi of Google:
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<p class="m1986383667809338524line867"><strong>-- MOTION BEGINS --</strong> <o:p>
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<p class="m1986383667809338524line874">The official name of the Baseline Requirements document shall be 'The Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates'. Approved abbreviations for official use are "the Baseline Requirements",
and "the BRs".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m1986383667809338524line874">Editors and maintainers of CAB Forum documents and websites are empowered to update text under their control at any time to make this so.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m1986383667809338524line867"><strong>-- MOTION ENDS --</strong> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m1986383667809338524line874">The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
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<p class="m1986383667809338524line862">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A
vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are listed here:
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must be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under Bylaw 2.2(g), at least the required quorum number must participate in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining.
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