[cabfpub] Ballot 122 - Verified Method of Communication

Erwann Abalea erwann.abalea at keynectis.com
Wed Apr 16 14:18:24 UTC 2014

It can, but it's not mandatory. Skype to Skype doesn't, for example. 
Neither does XMPP, nor Yahoo Messenger, ...
My question was more: is an email address a "Verified Method of 
Communication"? Is it more verified than a Skype handle? Or a verified 
Twitter account?


Le 16/04/2014 15:37, Ben Wilson a écrit :
> Doesn't Skype interface with the ITU-T E.164 POTS network using a 
> numbers-only assigned route?
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> From: Erwann Abalea <mailto:erwann.abalea at keynectis.com>
> Sent: ‎4/‎16/‎2014 2:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 122 - Verified Method of Communication
> Is the ITU-T E.164 reference used to disallow Skype or similar services?
> Is an email address considered more "verified" than a Skype/whatever 
> identifier?
> -- 
> Erwann ABALEA
> Le 15/04/2014 22:57, Ben Wilson a écrit :
>> *Ballot 122 - Verified Method of Communication*
>> The EV Guidelines Working Group has completed its review of Section 
>> 11.4.2 of the EV Guidelines (Telephone Number for Applicant’s Place 
>> of Business). The purpose of the review was to "develop a more 
>> international process for verifying contact information,” especially 
>> to transition away from a landline-centric focus. The purpose of 
>> Section 11.4.2 has been to ensure a means for communicating with an 
>> organization (to verify the authority of EV roles and ensure that it 
>> was appropriately aware of the certificate request) and to provide 
>> additional evidence of an organization's existence. This is 
>> maintained by the proposed replacement language.
>> Cecilia Kam of Symantec made the following motion, and Rich Smith 
>> from Comodo and Jeremy Rowley from DigiCert have endorsed it.
>> Motion Begins
>> 1. Create a new definition for a "Verified Method of Communication" 
>> in the EV Guidelines:
>> " Verified Method of Communication: The use of a public 
>> telecommunication routing number (ITU-E.164-compliant fixed, mobile, 
>> fax, or SMS), an email address, or a postal delivery address, 
>> confirmed by the CA in accordance with Section 11.4.2 of the 
>> Guidelines as a reliable way of communicating with the Applicant."
>> 2. DELETE Section 11.4.2 (Telephone Number for Applicant's Place of 
>> Business) and INSERT the following:
>> "11.4.2 Verified Method of Communication
>> (1) Verification Requirements: To assist in communicating with the 
>> Applicant and confirming that the Applicant is aware of and approves 
>> issuance, the CA MUST establish at least one Verified Method of 
>> Communication with the Applicant.
>> (2) Acceptable Methods of Verification: To verify a Verified Method 
>> of Communication with the Applicant, the CA MUST:
>> (A) Verify that the number or address belongs to the Applicant, or a 
>> Parent or Affiliate of the Applicant, by matching it with one of the 
>> Applicant’s Places of Business in: (i) records provided by the 
>> applicable phone company; (ii) a QGIS, QTIS, or QIIS; or (iii) a 
>> Verified Legal Opinion or Verified Accountant Letter; and
>> (B) Confirm the Verified Method of Communication by using it to 
>> obtain an affirmative response sufficient to enable a reasonable 
>> person to conclude that the Applicant, or a Parent or Affiliate of 
>> Applicant, can be contacted reliably by using the Verified Method of 
>> Communication.
>> 3. In subsection 11.13.1(1)(D), REPLACE "Telephone number for Place 
>> of Business" with "Verified Method of Communication."
>> 4. REPLACE subsection 11.13.3(1)(C) with "The Verified Method of 
>> Communication required by Section 11.4.2, but still MUST perform the 
>> verification required by Section 11.4.2(2)(B);"
>> Motion Ends
>> The review period for this ballot shall commence at 2200 UTC on 
>> Tuesday, 15 April 2014, and will close at 2200 UTC on Tuesday, 22 
>> April 2014. Unless the motion is withdrawn during the review period, 
>> the voting period will start immediately thereafter and will close at 
>> 2200 UTC on Tuesday, 29 April 2014. Votes must be cast by posting an 
>> on-list reply to this thread.
>> A vote in favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the 
>> response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. 
>> A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. 
>> Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from 
>> any representative of a voting member before the close of the voting 
>> period will be counted. Voting members are listed here: 
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>> In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the 
>> votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of the 
>> votes cast by members in the browser category must be in favor. Also, 
>> at least six members must participate in the ballot, either by voting 
>> in favor, voting against, or abstaining.
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