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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It can, but it's not mandatory. Skype
      to Skype doesn't, for example. Neither does XMPP, nor Yahoo
      Messenger, ...<br>
      My question was more: is an email address a "Verified Method of
      Communication"? Is it more verified than a Skype handle? Or a
      verified Twitter account?<br>
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Erwann ABALEA

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      Le 16/04/2014 15:37, Ben Wilson a écrit :<br>
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        <div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">Doesn't
          Skype interface with the ITU-T E.164 POTS network using a
          numbers-only assigned route?</div>
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        <span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
          FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;
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            href="mailto:erwann.abalea@keynectis.com">Erwann Abalea</a></span><br>
        <span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
          FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;
          FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">‎4/‎16/‎2014 2:51 AM</span><br>
        <span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
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        <span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
          FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:
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          122 - Verified Method of Communication</span><br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Is the ITU-T E.164 reference used to
        disallow Skype or similar services?<br>
        Is an email address considered more "verified" than a
        Skype/whatever identifier?<br>
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        <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Erwann ABALEA

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        Le 15/04/2014 22:57, Ben Wilson a écrit :<br>
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          <p class="line867"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
                'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Ballot 122
                - Verified Method of Communication</span></strong><span
              style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"
              lang="EN"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">The EV
              Guidelines Working Group has completed its review of
              Section 11.4.2 of the EV Guidelines (Telephone Number for
              Applicant’s Place of Business). The purpose of the review
              was to "develop a more international process for verifying
              contact information,” especially to transition away from a
              landline-centric focus. The purpose of Section 11.4.2 has
              been to ensure a means for communicating with an
              organization (to verify the authority of EV roles and
              ensure that it was appropriately aware of the certificate
              request) and to provide additional evidence of an
              organization's existence. This is maintained by the
              proposed replacement language. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line862"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Cecilia Kam
              of Symantec made the following motion, and Rich Smith from
              Comodo and Jeremy Rowley from DigiCert have endorsed it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Motion
              Begins <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">1. Create a
              new definition for a "Verified Method of Communication" in
              the EV Guidelines: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">" Verified
              Method of Communication: The use of a public
              telecommunication routing number (ITU-E.164-compliant
              fixed, mobile, fax, or SMS), an email address, or a postal
              delivery address, confirmed by the CA in accordance with
              Section 11.4.2 of the Guidelines as a reliable way of
              communicating with the Applicant." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">2. DELETE
              Section 11.4.2 (Telephone Number for Applicant's Place of
              Business) and INSERT the following: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">"11.4.2
              Verified Method of Communication <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">(1)
              Verification Requirements: To assist in communicating with
              the Applicant and confirming that the Applicant is aware
              of and approves issuance, the CA MUST establish at least
              one Verified Method of Communication with the Applicant. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">(2)
              Acceptable Methods of Verification: To verify a Verified
              Method of Communication with the Applicant, the CA MUST: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;
            mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
              FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'" lang="EN">(A) Verify
              that the number or address belongs to the Applicant, or a
              Parent or Affiliate of the Applicant, by matching it with
              one of the Applicant’s Places of Business in: (i) records
              provided by the applicable phone company; (ii) a QGIS,
              QTIS, or QIIS; or (iii) a Verified Legal Opinion or
              Verified Accountant Letter; and <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;
            mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
              FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'" lang="EN">(B) Confirm
              the Verified Method of Communication by using it to obtain
              an affirmative response sufficient to enable a reasonable
              person to conclude that the Applicant, or a Parent or
              Affiliate of Applicant, can be contacted reliably by using
              the </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'">Verified </span><span
              style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"
              lang="EN">Method of Communication. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">3. In
              subsection 11.13.1(1)(D), REPLACE "Telephone number for
              Place of Business" with "Verified Method of
              Communication." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">4. REPLACE
              subsection 11.13.3(1)(C) with "The Verified Method of
              Communication required by Section 11.4.2, but still MUST
              perform the verification required by Section
              11.4.2(2)(B);" <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Motion Ends
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
              'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">The review
              period for this ballot shall commence at 2200 UTC on
              Tuesday, 15 April 2014, and will close at 2200 UTC on
              Tuesday, 22 April 2014. Unless the motion is withdrawn
              during the review period, the voting period will start
              immediately thereafter and will close at 2200 UTC on
              Tuesday, 29 April 2014. Votes must be cast by posting an
              on-list reply to this thread. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="line862"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
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              favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the
              response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the
              response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear
              'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will not be
              counted. The latest vote received from any representative
              of a voting member before the close of the voting period
              will be counted. Voting members are listed here: <a
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          <p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
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              the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes
              cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of
              the votes cast by members in the browser category must be
              in favor. Also, at least six members must participate in
              the ballot, either by voting in favor, voting against, or
              abstaining. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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