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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">It can, but it's not mandatory. Skype
to Skype doesn't, for example. Neither does XMPP, nor Yahoo
Messenger, ...<br>
My question was more: is an email address a "Verified Method of
Communication"? Is it more verified than a Skype handle? Or a
verified Twitter account?<br>
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Le 16/04/2014 15:37, Ben Wilson a écrit :<br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">Doesn't
Skype interface with the ITU-T E.164 POTS network using a
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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt;
FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">4/16/2014 2:51 AM</span><br>
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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
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11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">Re: [cabfpub] Ballot
122 - Verified Method of Communication</span><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Is the ITU-T E.164 reference used to
disallow Skype or similar services?<br>
Is an email address considered more "verified" than a
Skype/whatever identifier?<br>
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<p class="line867"><strong><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Ballot 122
- Verified Method of Communication</span></strong><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"
lang="EN"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">The EV
Guidelines Working Group has completed its review of
Section 11.4.2 of the EV Guidelines (Telephone Number for
Applicant’s Place of Business). The purpose of the review
was to "develop a more international process for verifying
contact information,” especially to transition away from a
landline-centric focus. The purpose of Section 11.4.2 has
been to ensure a means for communicating with an
organization (to verify the authority of EV roles and
ensure that it was appropriately aware of the certificate
request) and to provide additional evidence of an
organization's existence. This is maintained by the
proposed replacement language. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line862"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Cecilia Kam
of Symantec made the following motion, and Rich Smith from
Comodo and Jeremy Rowley from DigiCert have endorsed it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Motion
Begins <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">1. Create a
new definition for a "Verified Method of Communication" in
the EV Guidelines: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">" Verified
Method of Communication: The use of a public
telecommunication routing number (ITU-E.164-compliant
fixed, mobile, fax, or SMS), an email address, or a postal
delivery address, confirmed by the CA in accordance with
Section 11.4.2 of the Guidelines as a reliable way of
communicating with the Applicant." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">2. DELETE
Section 11.4.2 (Telephone Number for Applicant's Place of
Business) and INSERT the following: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">"11.4.2
Verified Method of Communication <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">(1)
Verification Requirements: To assist in communicating with
the Applicant and confirming that the Applicant is aware
of and approves issuance, the CA MUST establish at least
one Verified Method of Communication with the Applicant. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">(2)
Acceptable Methods of Verification: To verify a Verified
Method of Communication with the Applicant, the CA MUST: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'" lang="EN">(A) Verify
that the number or address belongs to the Applicant, or a
Parent or Affiliate of the Applicant, by matching it with
one of the Applicant’s Places of Business in: (i) records
provided by the applicable phone company; (ii) a QGIS,
QTIS, or QIIS; or (iii) a Verified Legal Opinion or
Verified Accountant Letter; and <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'" lang="EN">(B) Confirm
the Verified Method of Communication by using it to obtain
an affirmative response sufficient to enable a reasonable
person to conclude that the Applicant, or a Parent or
Affiliate of Applicant, can be contacted reliably by using
the </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'">Verified </span><span
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"
lang="EN">Method of Communication. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">3. In
subsection 11.13.1(1)(D), REPLACE "Telephone number for
Place of Business" with "Verified Method of
Communication." <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">4. REPLACE
subsection 11.13.3(1)(C) with "The Verified Method of
Communication required by Section 11.4.2, but still MUST
perform the verification required by Section
11.4.2(2)(B);" <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">Motion Ends
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">The review
period for this ballot shall commence at 2200 UTC on
Tuesday, 15 April 2014, and will close at 2200 UTC on
Tuesday, 22 April 2014. Unless the motion is withdrawn
during the review period, the voting period will start
immediately thereafter and will close at 2200 UTC on
Tuesday, 29 April 2014. Votes must be cast by posting an
on-list reply to this thread. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line862"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">A vote in
favor of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the
response. A vote to abstain must indicate a clear
'abstain' in the response. Unclear responses will not be
counted. The latest vote received from any representative
of a voting member before the close of the voting period
will be counted. Voting members are listed here: <a
href="https://cabforum.org/members/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/members/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="line874"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black" lang="EN">In order for
the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes
cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of
the votes cast by members in the browser category must be
in favor. Also, at least six members must participate in
the ballot, either by voting in favor, voting against, or
abstaining. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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