[cabfpub] Ballot [85] - Governance Reform

Wed Aug 15 22:26:50 UTC 2012

I have several questions for the authors of the various proposals. I think
the answers would be of interest to the general CAB Forum:

Paypal:

1.       If I understand your proposal correctly, there are 3 groups at the
Board level and ratification requires a 2/3 vote of the constituencies. But
the third group can veto the vote if all members of that group are
unanimous, is that correct? So for example, if CAs and Trust store operators
vote on something but all members of the User group unanimously vote against
it, it doesn't pass?

2.       What is the rationale for the number "9" for the CA group? How was
this number arrived at?

3.       It's not clear whether everyone has to sign up to an IPR policy or
just those in the working groups?

4.       This proposal seems to be biased against larger companies in terms
of the fee structure.  Can you comment on that? Also, is the fee based on
the number of people in the overall company or just the division that deals
with SSL/PKI?

Trend:

1.       This looks like essentially what we have now but with the addition
of moderated working groups in which the moderator makes a recommendation
after synthesizing the "voice" of the work group and then brings it to a
vote of the forum. The forum voting rules are the same as today. Is this a
correct characterization?

That's it for now, more to come as I keep diving into them.

Thanks,

Dean Coclin

Symantec

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Subject: [cabfpub] Ballot [85] - Governance Reform

Forwarded to the Public List ===

Tom Albertson made the following motion and Bill Madell and Jeremy Rowley
endorsed it:

Pursuant to a motion made and approved at the face-to-face meeting of Forum
members in Gjovik Norway, the CAB Forum has posted the four (4) governance
proposals to http://www.cabforum.org, and indicated that one of these
governance proposals, or a "no change" proposal, should be adopted by the
Forum, by the following voting process:

a.       A seven (7) day review period, followed by

b.       A seven (7) day voting period, during which an instant run-off
ballot is conducted to eliminate all but two of the proposals..

1.       The instant run off ballot is among the following proposals (listed
in alphabetical order):

DigiCert
<http://www.cabforum.org/governance/DigiCert_Governance_Proposal.pdf>
Proposal

Microsoft
<http://www.cabforum.org/governance/Microsoft_Governance_Proposal.pdf>
Proposal

No Change Proposal

PayPal <http://www.cabforum.org/governance/PayPal_Governance_Proposal.pdf>
Proposal

Trend Micro
<http://www.cabforum.org/governance/Trend_Micro_Governance_Proposal.pdf>
Proposal

Note: The instant run-off ballot shall be conducted as follows.

Where there are '5' initial proposals, each voting member may assign the
numbers 1 to 5 to the proposals in order of preference (1 indicating their
most preferred choice).  Each member who votes shall (at least) assign the
number '1', and may assign further numbers up to and including '5'.

Votes ranked '1' shall be counted and the proposal with the fewest votes
shall be eliminated.  The votes of the corresponding members shall be
reassigned to the proposal ranked '2' by those members.  Where a member has
not identified a proposal with rank '2', his or her vote shall not be
reassigned.

This procedure shall be repeated, counting reassigned votes, until just two
proposals remain.

2.       Votes will be tallied and the two remaining proposals receiving
first and second status from the run-off ballot process shall proceed to the
final ballot.

3.       A two week period will occur during which the authors of the two
remaining proposals on the final ballot may modify their proposals while
keeping to the spirit of the proposal that he or she posted to
http://www.cabforum.org. 

4.       A final ballot will be offered to select between the two remaining
proposals, by the following voting process:

a.       A seven (7) day review period, followed by

b.       A seven (7) day voting period.

5.       Votes will be tallied and the proposal receiving a simple majority
of votes in favor will be deemed the governance policy that the Forum will
pursue.

6.       A period of undefined duration during which the author of the
successful proposal shall refine the proposal in order to ensure its
completeness, while keeping within the spirit of the proposal that he or she
posted to http://www.cabforum.org. 

7.       A ratification ballot conducted in accordance with established
Forum procedures to ratify the proposal that emerged from step 5 (above).

--MOTION BEGINS--

The members shall conduct an instant run-off ballot as described above.
Votes will be tallied, and members shall conduct a final ballot between the
two proposals with first and second status.  Once a governance policy is
selected, it will be further refined and put before the membership in the
form of a ratification ballot. 

This ballot review period comes into effect at 2100 UTC on 10 August 2012
and will close at 2100 UTC on 17 August 2012. Unless the motion is withdrawn
during the review period, the entire voting period for 3 ballots will
proceed as follows:

7 day review period for this motion, closing on 17 August 2012

7 day voting period, closing on 24 August 2012

14 day period for modification of two final proposals, closing on 7
September 2012

7 day review period for two final proposals, closing on 14 September 2012

7 day voting period, closing on 21 September 2012

A period of undefined duration for refinement of the final proposal

7 day review period, closing on date TBD

7 day voting period, closing on date TBD

Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread.

--MOTION ENDS--

For the instant run-off ballot, votes for preferred proposals must clearly
indicate a number 1  for the most preferred choice, and optionally 2 for the
second most preferred, and so on (see above "Note" for details).

For the final ballot, voters will choose a preferred option between two
proposals, with the winner receiving a simple majority of votes.   Votes
must indicate a clear "Yes" in the response for their preferred option.
Since the final ballot is for the preferred option no "no" response should
be given, only a "yes" or "abstain.", A vote to abstain must indicate a
clear "abstain" in the response.  Unclear responses will not be counted. The
latest vote received from any representative of a voting member before the
close of the voting period will be counted.

For the ratification ballot, votes will be tallied in accordance with
established Forum procedures.

Voting members are listed here:

 <http://www.cabforum.org/forum.html> http://www.cabforum.org/forum.html

In order for the ratification ballot conducted in step (7) above to be
adopted, as the Forum is currently constituted, two thirds or more of the
votes cast by members in the CA category and one half or more of the votes
cast by members in the browser

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