[cabfpub] Observer Status

[Hill, Brad]

Observer is the historic, but perhaps not best, terminology for PayPal's participation. 

More accurately, we are a non-voting member.  From an IPR perspective, we certainly contribute, even if we do not directly submit ballots, etc.

Voting status and IPR status are orthogonal, and I don't think PayPal's current or prior "observer" status has much bearing on the new issues at hand.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-
> bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Dean Coclin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:33 AM
> To: Gervase Markham; Carsten.Dahlenkamp at t-systems.com
> Cc: public at cabforum.org
> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Observer Status
> 
> Paypal is an observer, but they have also signed the IPR document.
> 
> We need to come to some consensus as to observers going forward.
> 
> I would be in favor of allowing observers (as non-voting members) to be in
> the forum w/o signing the IPR agreement so that they can participate on IPR
> working groups and keep abreast of the upcoming governance changes.
> 
> Dean Coclin
> Symantec
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-
> bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Gervase Markham
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:22 PM
> To: Carsten.Dahlenkamp at t-systems.com
> Cc: public at cabforum.org
> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Observer Status
> 
> On 01/08/12 16:47, Carsten.Dahlenkamp at t-systems.com wrote:
> > Colleagues,
> >
> > as discussed before, today T-Systems will loss CAB-Forum’s full
> > membership, as we did not make it to sign the IPR policy until now. We
> > will knock on the door again once we have everything in place ;-)
> >
> > Until then, we would like to apply for a kind of observer status, as
> > Tom mentioned during the IPR discussion a week ago or so.
> >
> > Is there already a shared view, what this status means – what rights
> > and responsibilities?
> >
> > Do we have to apply for the public mailing list again, or won’t be
> > removed at this point?
> 
> Paypal is currently an observer, I believe?
> 
> It would be most helpful if someone could outline what part of our rules etc.
> allows for this, and what the rights and responsibilities are.
> 
> If it turns out there are none, then perhaps we need some...
> 
> Gerv
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