[cabf_governance] Notes from Today's Call

[Peter Bowen]

Virginia,

I know there is a desire on our part to see these changes pass.  I am also looking forward to the post-reform era so we can working on addressing generic CA issues independently from SSL/server authentication certificates.  I also look forward to the addition of Code Signing and Document Signing (including S/MIME) certificates working groups.

I was under the impression we were very close to finalizing the work of this group.  I circulated the last draft to my counsel colleagues and submitted comments to this group.  I thought there were only a couple open issues remaining and then this would proceed to ballot.

I very much appreciate all the time you have spent with this group and hope you do not feel it to be time wasted.

Thanks,
Peter


> On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Ben Wilson via Govreform <govreform at cabforum.org> wrote:
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> From: Dean Coclin [mailto:Dean_Coclin at symantec.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:45 PM
> To: Virginia Fournier <vfournier at apple.com>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <govreform at cabforum.org>; Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com>
> Cc: Gervase Markham <gerv at mozilla.org>; Virginia Fournier <vmf at apple.com>
> Subject: RE: [cabf_governance] Notes from Today's Call
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> Hi,
> We were chartered by the Forum with a task for this working group which I intend to bring to conclusion. The comments we have received so far should not be viewed as negative. These are a normal part of the Forum process and should be encouraged so that we can develop the best possible document. I think we have made substantial progress and are getting close to finalizing. We do need to have a call with more than 3 people present to answer some remaining questions. Hopefully we can have more on the next scheduled call. If that doesn’t work, we need to propose another day/time.
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> Many people want to work on code signing and SMIME. In fact, our current code signing document is somewhat of an “orphan” and needs a venue for updating. SMIME is starting to get some momentum now that Google has expressed interest. Hence these new bylaws will provide the necessary framework to move this along.
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> Thanks
> Dean
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> From: Govreform [mailto:govreform-bounces at cabforum.org <mailto:govreform-bounces at cabforum.org>] On Behalf Of Virginia Fournier via Govreform
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:13 PM
> To: Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com <mailto:ben.wilson at digicert.com>>
> Cc: Gervase Markham <gerv at mozilla.org <mailto:gerv at mozilla.org>>; CA/Browser Forum Governance WG List <govreform at cabforum.org <mailto:govreform at cabforum.org>>; Virginia Fournier <vmf at apple.com <mailto:vmf at apple.com>>
> Subject: Re: [cabf_governance] Notes from Today's Call
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> Hi Ben,
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> Thanks for this and sorry I was unable to join the call.
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> I still think we need to address the fundamental question of whether there is still a need/desire for these changes before we push forward.  I’m perceiving an overwhelming sense of apathy and some pushback.  
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> I have been working on this effort to help CAB Forum, and not because Apple is really interested in the proposed changes.  Unless the Forum can find someone who really wants these changes and is willing to drive the effort to completion, I say we put it on hold.  I’m not willing to put more time and effort into leading a horse to water and trying to make him drink.
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> Best regards,
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> Virginia Fournier
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> On Oct 10, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com <mailto:ben.wilson at digicert.com>> wrote:
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> Contained in the attached documents are notes from today’s call (me, Dean, and Andrew were present).  
> Please review these documents in the interim before our next meeting on Tuesday, October 24.
> Thanks,
> Ben
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> Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP
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> <Gerv's Comments - Notes.docx><Governance Change FAQ_10OCT17.docx>
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