[cabf_governance] Draft Statement of Purpose of CAB Forum

Virginia Fournier vfournier at apple.com
Tue May 17 16:29:01 MST 2016

Hi Ben.

Thanks for sending this.  Yes, I understand the concept expressed below.  This is one “example," as noted below, for which “lots of discussion would still be required.”  

Again, I’m concerned about this becoming too complex.  The more simple the structure, the more workable and manageable it will be.  Lots of fodder for discussion.

Best regards,

Virginia Fournier
Senior Standards Counsel
 Apple Inc.
☏ 669-227-9595
✉︎ vmf at apple.com <mailto:vmf at apple.com>

On May 17, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com> wrote:

Here are the notes from the face-to-face meeting in Scottsdale – 
More broadly: to restructure the governance model of the entire CA/B Forum: the idea being that CA/B Forum be divided into multiple sub-fora or committees. 
An example structure was suggested. 
CA/B Forum as a supervisor or overarching governance unit. Example subordinate units could be: 
SSL committee 
S/MIME committee 
Code Signing committee 
Document Signing committee 
Each committee would possess its own IPR, develop and maintain its own membership criteria, bylaws and document repositories. 
The SSL committee would likely contain the existing CA/B Forum membership. 
Code Signing would be those parties already in WG, plus such organisations which feel unable to participate under the existing aegis. 
Since the scope of this option is complex and far-reaching, lots of discussion would still be required. 
From: govreform-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:govreform-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Ben Wilson
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Subject: Re: [cabf_governance] Draft Statement of Purpose of CAB Forum
Thanks, Virginia.  I appreciate your comment.  I’ll try to  send  out notes/minutes of previous meetings where some members expressed a desire to enlarge the scope of what members of the Forum can discuss within the context of the Forum.  Either the existing organization changes or a new organization is created, but I think a majority of CAs, at least,  would like to see the  existing organization modified.  
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Subject: Re: [cabf_governance] Draft Statement of Purpose of CAB Forum
Hi Ben,
I definitely appreciate the thought and energy you are putting into this effort.  However, I am not convinced that we need to completely overhaul everything.  As I previously mentioned, we need to discuss the goals and objectives of the Governance WG before we start tearing down the walls and building a new SDO.  We need to figure out what we want/need to accomplish before we can determine how to get there.  Right now it feels like we are trying to drive a car with no engine and no destination.


Best regards,
Virginia Fournier
Senior Standards Counsel
 Apple Inc.
☏ 669-227-9595
✉︎ vmf at apple.com <mailto:vmf at apple.com>

On May 17, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com <mailto:ben.wilson at digicert.com>> wrote:
Here is an initial draft of a statement of purpose for Articles of Association that would create a new “CAB Forum” (removing “Browser” from the organization name):
The CAB Forum is an unincorporated, non-profit association and shall have as its objectives: 
To promote the best interests of current and future users of the Internet in general;
To provide a forum for the exchange of information about best practices in the industry that issues, manages, and uses ITU X.509 v.3 digital certificates;
To promote self-regulation by the industry and to contribute to the self-regulatory process;
To develop professional standards for the industry and contribute to the development of technical standards;
To provide services in the common interest of the Members of the Forum;
To engage in any lawful act or activity that non-profit, unincorporated associations may engage in; and
To undertake such other activities as may from time to time be appropriate to further the purposes and achieve the goals set forth above.

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