[Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Re: FW: Ballot CSC-22: High Risk Requirements Update

Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) dzacharo at harica.gr
Thu Jan 18 17:09:28 UTC 2024


It was discussed in today's Teleconference with the larger Forum and no 
objections or concerns were raised so we should be good to go for the 
IPR review process.

Thanks :)

Dimitris.

On 17/1/2024 11:12 μ.μ., Tim Hollebeek wrote:
>
> I personally could go either way with this, it’s up to the chairs what 
> they want to do.
>
>  1. It’s clear that Bruce had endorsers, the email just had an error
>     and failed to disclose them properly.  The Bylaws state that a
>     ballot requires two endorsers to proceed, but DOES NOT have a
>     requirement that they be stated in the ballot email.  That’s just
>     a tradition to clearly document the endorsers.  This could be
>     considered a “repairable” error, since it’s clear what was
>     intended and I don’t think it materially or adversely affected the
>     voting process.
>  2. In order to avoid all doubt and make sure the endorsers are
>     documented correctly, the ballot could be re-run.
>
> I don’t have a strong preference.
>
> -Tim
>
> *From:*Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces at cabforum.org> *On Behalf Of 
> *Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Cscwg-public
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 1:00 PM
> *To:* Bruce Morton <bruce.morton at entrust.com>; cscwg-public at cabforum.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Re: FW: Ballot CSC-22: High 
> Risk Requirements Update
>
> On 17/1/2024 7:58 μ.μ., Bruce Morton wrote:
>
>     Yes, that is the email which started the discussion period.
>
>
> Do we need to start over?
>
> Dimitris.
>
>
>     Bruce.
>
>     *From:*Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces at cabforum.org>
>     <mailto:cscwg-public-bounces at cabforum.org> *On Behalf Of *Dimitris
>     Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Cscwg-public
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2024 12:10 PM
>     *To:* cscwg-public at cabforum.org
>     *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [Cscwg-public] FW: Ballot CSC-22: High
>     Risk Requirements Update
>
>     Dean, Bruce, Apologies for not spotting this sooner. Can you
>     please confirm if this is the email that was sent to the public
>     list to start the discussion period?
>     https: //lists. cabforum. org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2023-December/001141. html
>     If
>
>     Dean, Bruce,
>
>     Apologies for not spotting this sooner. Can you please confirm if
>     this is the email that was sent to the public list to start the
>     discussion period?
>
>     https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2023-December/001141.html___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OjI2MDM6MzIzNGE1OGU3MWRhYzVlOWRlOWQzOTNkZmRhM2Y3Y2MxYmE4MDU5N2JlOTNhMWVlNWZhYjFmZDk1MjczYTlhMzp0OkY
>     <https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2023-December/001141.html__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!fSDk2HOLnm7WIn39bQFF9-yDtQjM_HQmeMzH0CWlB2U54D1EYMxay5UCeLFyDe9zbdbMWsSBCoW8X4fz5-57vaIzDGRk$___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OmZjODY6ODVmZGMwODRlNjFmOTBjZjdmZWQ4MGE1OTMzYmMyYjUxZjcxNDhjOGI0OWE5OTdlYzNlZjJlOGY5MWUxMWZiZTpoOkY>
>
>     If this is the only email that was sent to start the discussion
>     period, I'm afraid it is not compliant with the Bylaws because
>     when the official discussion period started, the ballot did not
>     include two endorsers. Instead, it seems that it went straight to
>     voting, per
>     https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2024-January/001145.html___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OjgwYTI6YmU0ZTAwOGJmYzU1OWI3YWEwZmM2NDRkYThiY2Q1YjQ5NmIzMTczZjI3NWY3ZGU5N2M1NzgwOTc0ZGRkZjc0ODp0OkY
>     <https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2024-January/001145.html__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!fSDk2HOLnm7WIn39bQFF9-yDtQjM_HQmeMzH0CWlB2U54D1EYMxay5UCeLFyDe9zbdbMWsSBCoW8X4fz5-57vQ0vidAH$___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OjU1MzI6ZGRmYjcwMmIwNzYyM2Q3NmY2Nzc1Y2IwMWQ0ZjVmOTZiNGJlY2FlNjk5N2UwMGRlNWE0NDIwOTNiYWEwNWM0OTpoOkY>.
>
>     Again, sorry for not discovering this earlier and I would
>     definitely need another pair of eyes to confirm this.
>
>     Dimitris.
>
>     On 17/1/2024 6:36 μ.μ., Dean Coclin via Cscwg-public wrote:
>
>         Resending to the list…
>
>         *Dean Coclin *
>
>         *From:*Dean Coclin
>         *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2024 4:26 PM
>         *Subject:* Ballot CSC-22: High Risk Requirements Update
>
>         Voting has concluded on Ballot CSC 22 and the results are as
>         follows:
>
>         Certificate Issuers:
>         Yes: (7) Digicert, eMudra, Entrust, Globalsign, HARICA,
>         Sectigo, Viking Cloud
>
>         No: (0)
>
>         Abstain: (0)
>
>         Certificate Consumers:
>         Yes: (1) Microsoft
>
>         No: (0)
>
>         Abstain: (0)
>
>         Quorum was achieved. Therefore the ballot passes.
>
>         *Dean Coclin *
>
>         CSCWG Chair
>
>         *From:*Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces at cabforum.org> *On
>         Behalf Of *Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public
>         *Sent:* Friday, January 5, 2024 3:02 PM
>         *To:* cscwg-public at cabforum.org
>         *Subject:* [Cscwg-public] Voting Period begins - Ballot
>         CSC-22: High Risk Requirements Update
>
>         *Purpose of the Ballot*
>
>         This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the
>         Issuance and Management of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing
>         Certificates“ version 3.4 in order to clarify language
>         regarding Signing Service and signing requests. The main goals
>         of this ballot are to:
>
>          1. Remove references to High Risk Certificate Request, since
>             the CSBRs do not provide any actions for a high risk
>             application.
>          2. Remove references to High Risk Region of Concern, since
>             the CSBR appendix has never been populated.
>          3. Remove rules for a Takeover Attack to require the
>             Subscriber to generate keys in a crypto device, since
>             crypto device key generation is now a baseline requirement
>             for all code signing certificates.
>          4. Remove option to transfer private key which has been
>             generated in software.
>          5. Cleanup to remove Subscriber key generation option which
>             expired effective 1 June 2023.
>          6. Cleanup to remove “any other method” to verify the
>             Subscriber key was generated in a crypto device, since
>             this option expired 1 June 2023.
>
>         The following motion has been proposed by Bruce Morton of
>         Entrust and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and Ian
>         McMillan of Microsoft.
>
>         *MOTION BEGINS*
>
>         This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the
>         Issuance and Management of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing
>         Certificates” ("Code Signing Baseline Requirements") based on
>         version 3.4. MODIFY the Code Signing Baseline Requirements as
>         specified in the following redline:
>         https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://github.com/cabforum/code-signing/compare/e0da5532ab81e35e2e92536c1bc9ea3c36765b26...50871dc08d39102daf6c93fa556a869790643fb6___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OmEzNzg6ODA2MGM4NTFlMjNmMDFiMDI0NjcyZjZkYjVmZGUzYTI1M2E5NzNjZDU0ZWU3OWFlMDU5YWY0MGRkMzMwYjFiMjp0OkY
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>
>         *MOTION ENDS*
>
>         The procedure for this ballot is as follows: Discussion
>         (minimum 7 days)
>
>          1. Start Time: 2023-12-15 00:00 UTC
>          2. End Time: 2024-01-05 20:00 UTC
>
>         Vote for approval (7 days)
>
>          3. Start Time: 2024-01-05 20:00 UTC
>          4. End Time: 2024-01-12 20:00 UTC
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