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It was discussed in today's Teleconference with the larger Forum and
no objections or concerns were raised so we should be good to go for
the IPR review process.<br>
<br>
Thanks :)<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/1/2024 11:12 μ.μ., Tim Hollebeek
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
personally could go either way with this, it’s up to the
chairs what they want to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s
clear that Bruce had endorsers, the email just had an
error and failed to disclose them properly. The Bylaws
state that a ballot requires two endorsers to proceed, but
DOES NOT have a requirement that they be stated in the
ballot email. That’s just a tradition to clearly document
the endorsers. This could be considered a “repairable”
error, since it’s clear what was intended and I don’t
think it materially or adversely affected the voting
process.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In
order to avoid all doubt and make sure the endorsers are
documented correctly, the ballot could be re-run.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I don’t
have a strong preference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-Tim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
Cscwg-public <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"><cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)
via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 17, 2024 1:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bruce Morton
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bruce.morton@entrust.com"><bruce.morton@entrust.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Re: FW:
Ballot CSC-22: High Risk Requirements Update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 17/1/2024 7:58 μ.μ., Bruce Morton
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Yes,
that is the email which started the discussion period. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><br>
Do we need to start over?<br>
<br>
Dimitris.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Bruce.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">
Cscwg-public <a
href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)
via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 17, 2024 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Cscwg-public] FW:
Ballot CSC-22: High Risk Requirements Update</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-line-height-alt:.75pt"><span
style="font-size:1.0pt;color:white">Dean, Bruce,
Apologies for not spotting this sooner. Can you please
confirm if this is the email that was sent to the
public list to start the discussion period?
https: //lists. cabforum. org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2023-December/001141. html
If </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Dean, Bruce,<br>
<br>
Apologies for not spotting this sooner. Can you please
confirm if this is the email that was sent to the public
list to start the discussion period?<br>
<br>
<a
href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2023-December/001141.html__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!fSDk2HOLnm7WIn39bQFF9-yDtQjM_HQmeMzH0CWlB2U54D1EYMxay5UCeLFyDe9zbdbMWsSBCoW8X4fz5-57vaIzDGRk$___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OmZjODY6ODVmZGMwODRlNjFmOTBjZjdmZWQ4MGE1OTMzYmMyYjUxZjcxNDhjOGI0OWE5OTdlYzNlZjJlOGY5MWUxMWZiZTpoOkY"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2023-December/001141.html___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OjI2MDM6MzIzNGE1OGU3MWRhYzVlOWRlOWQzOTNkZmRhM2Y3Y2MxYmE4MDU5N2JlOTNhMWVlNWZhYjFmZDk1MjczYTlhMzp0OkY</a><br>
<br>
If this is the only email that was sent to start the
discussion period, I'm afraid it is not compliant with
the Bylaws because when the official discussion period
started, the ballot did not include two endorsers.
Instead, it seems that it went straight to voting, per <a
href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2024-January/001145.html__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!fSDk2HOLnm7WIn39bQFF9-yDtQjM_HQmeMzH0CWlB2U54D1EYMxay5UCeLFyDe9zbdbMWsSBCoW8X4fz5-57vQ0vidAH$___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OjU1MzI6ZGRmYjcwMmIwNzYyM2Q3NmY2Nzc1Y2IwMWQ0ZjVmOTZiNGJlY2FlNjk5N2UwMGRlNWE0NDIwOTNiYWEwNWM0OTpoOkY"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2024-January/001145.html___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzo4NWI3MjBjZDgzZjViMjY1OWRjZjU3OTgyOGM3Y2RkZTo2OjgwYTI6YmU0ZTAwOGJmYzU1OWI3YWEwZmM2NDRkYThiY2Q1YjQ5NmIzMTczZjI3NWY3ZGU5N2M1NzgwOTc0ZGRkZjc0ODp0OkY</a>.<br>
<br>
Again, sorry for not discovering this earlier and I
would definitely need another pair of eyes to confirm
this.<br>
<br>
Dimitris.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On
17/1/2024 6:36 μ.μ., Dean Coclin via Cscwg-public
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Resending
to the list…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dean
Coclin </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Dean Coclin <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 12, 2024 4:26 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Ballot CSC-22: High Risk
Requirements Update</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Voting
has concluded on Ballot CSC 22 and the results are as
follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Certificate
Issuers: <br>
Yes: (7) Digicert, eMudra, Entrust, Globalsign,
HARICA, Sectigo, Viking Cloud</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No:
(0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Abstain:
(0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Certificate
Consumers:<br>
Yes: (1) Microsoft</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No:
(0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Abstain:
(0)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Quorum
was achieved. Therefore the ballot passes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dean
Coclin </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">CSCWG
Chair</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> Cscwg-public <<a
href="mailto:cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cscwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 5, 2024 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:cscwg-public@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cscwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Cscwg-public] Voting Period
begins - Ballot CSC-22: High Risk Requirements
Update</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"><b><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Purpose
of the Ballot</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" id="bkmrk-this-ballot-updates-"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">This ballot updates the
“Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management
of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates“ version
3.4 in order to clarify language regarding Signing
Service and signing requests. The main goals of this
ballot are to:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ol id="bkmrk-remove-dependencies-" type="1" start="1">
<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span
class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove
references to High Risk Certificate Request, since
the CSBRs do not provide any actions for a high
risk application.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span
class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove
references to High Risk Region of Concern, since
the CSBR appendix has never been populated.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span
class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove
rules for a Takeover Attack to require the
Subscriber to generate keys in a crypto device,
since crypto device key generation is now a
baseline requirement for all code signing
certificates.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span
class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remove
option to transfer private key which has been
generated in software.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span
class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cleanup
to remove Subscriber key generation option which
expired effective 1 June 2023.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3"><span
class="pl-mh"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cleanup
to remove “any other method” to verify the
Subscriber key was generated in a crypto device,
since this option expired 1 June 2023.</span></span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The
following motion has been proposed by Bruce Morton of
Entrust and endorsed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and
Ian McMillan of Microsoft.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"><b><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A">MOTION
BEGINS</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This
ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the
Issuance and Management of Publicly‐Trusted Code
Signing Certificates” ("Code Signing Baseline
Requirements") based on version 3.4. MODIFY the Code
Signing Baseline Requirements as specified in the
following redline: <a
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