[cabfpub] Let's Oppose

Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) dzacharo at harica.gr
Fri Jun 12 10:01:09 MST 2020


Hi Tony,

Let's not.

The CA/Browser Forum is not the proper venue to discuss such legal 
debates. The Forums is more focused on discussing technical standards 
and policy, not debates between legal entities.


Thanks for understanding.

Best regards,
Dimitris Zacharopoulos
CA/B Forum Chair



On 2020-06-12 6:24 μ.μ., Tony Rutkowski wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/10/lets_encrypt_trademark_complaints/
>
> This is preposterous and an abuse of the trademark and standards systems.
>
> If you use the US Patent and Trademark Office online system, you can 
> see the full history.
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4810:tltw3o.1.1
>
> Click on Basic Word Mark Search and enter “Let’s Encrypt”
>
> This was originally Comodo’s mark filed on 16 Oct 2015 and abandoned 
> 25 June 2016.  Thirteen days later, ISRG as a non-profit 501.c.3 filed 
> for the mark.
>
> A considerable number of entities have used the term in the 
> marketplace for all kinds of purposes as a political movement.  Google 
> Search finds about 6,840,00 of them going back almost 20 years.
>
> It is found 447 times in the IETF alone for advancing all manner of 
> activities without ever disclosing a trademark assertion.
>
> For the ISRG to threaten some other company for using the term “Let’s 
> Encrypt” with the arguments at the end of The Register article is 
> preposterous
>
> Lastly and most significantly, the actual Let’s Encrypt word mark – 
> Serial Number 88828174 was just filed on 10 March 2020, asserting 
> first use in commerce on 24 Feb 2020, and is just being published for 
> Opposition on 7 July 2020.
>
> It is time to LET’S OPPOSE
>
> --tony
>

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