[cabfpub] Ballot SC9 v2 – Conversion of CABF Validation Working Group to SCWG Validation Subcommittee

[Kirk Hall]

On this ballot and Ballot SC10, I’m only going to consider comments and criticisms that propose specific alternate language that you will support.  We have spent two months on creation of Subcommittees that simply continue the work we have been doing., and getting nowhere.  Time to finish up!

Do you have specific alternate ballot language you want the Members to consider?  If so, please post.

From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi at google.com]
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Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 v2 – Conversion of CABF Validation Working Group to SCWG Validation Subcommittee


Please see my comments regarding process and the establishment of Subcommittees. These concerns apply similarly to this proposal.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 5:10 PM Kirk Hall via Public <public at cabforum.org<mailto:public at cabforum.org>> wrote:
It has been pointed out that the Network Security Working Group sunsetted in June of this year by the terms of Ballot 203 which created the WG.  So I am removing the NetSec WG from this ballot SC9, which I am amending to convert only the Validation Working Group of the Forum to become the Validation Subcommittee of the SCWG according to the terms of Bylaw 5.3.4 (see below).

Tim – you endorsed the earlier version of this ballot – will you endorse this Version 2?  Do we have another endorser?

I would like to complete the discussion and voting on this ballot by October 3.


Ballot SC9 v2 – Conversion of CABF Validation Working Group to SCWG Validation Subcommittee

Purpose of Ballot:

All Working Groups of the Forum will expire on October 3, 2018.  Bylaws Sections 5.3.1(e) and 5.3.4 allow any “Legacy” Working Groups (“LWG”) in existence when Bylaws v.1.9 was approved by the Forum to be converted to a Subcommittee of a Chartered Working Group pursuant to the procedures of Bylaws Section 5.3.1(e).

The Server Certificate Working Group wishes to convert the existing Validation Working Group of the Forum into a Subcommittee of the Server Certificate Working Group.

--- MOTION BEGINS ---

In accordance with Bylaws 5.3.1(e) and 5.3.4, the Server Certificate Working Group (SCWG) hereby converts the Validation Working Group of the CA/Browser Forum to the Validation Subcommittee of the Server Certificate Working Group, effective upon approval of this ballot.  Tim Hollebeek shall become the initial Chair of the Validation Subcommittee.  There shall be no expiry date for this Subcommittee.


--- MOTION ENDS ---

The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion (7 days)
Start Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time
End Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time

Vote for approval (7 days)
Start Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time
End Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time

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Additional Information

Ballot 143 – Formalization of Validation Working Group (approved Feb 2015)
https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/143%20-%20Formalization%20of%20validation%20working%20group


The CA-Browser Forum formally establishes the Validation Working Group as an official working group of the CAB Forum, replacing the previous informal EV working group. The scope of this working group is to address issues arising under adopted CAB Forum standards related to the validation of certificate information and the inclusion of information in certificates.



Scope: The Validation Working Group will consider all matters relating to the validation and inclusion of information in certificates under adopted CAB Forum guidelines.



Deliverables: The Working Group shall produce one or more documents offering options to the Forum for validation within the scope defined above.



Bylaws v1.9

5.3.1 Formation of Chartered Working Groups
(e) CWGs may establish any number of subcommittees within its own Working Group to address any of such CWG’s business (each, a “Subcommittee”). A CWG-created Subcommittee needs to be approved by the CWG itself according to the approval process set forth in the CWG charter, but approval of the Forum is not necessary. Subcommittees must exist under an approved CWG.

5.3.4 Legacy Working Groups
Any “Legacy” Working Groups (“LWG”) in existence when this Bylaws v.1.8 is approved by the Forum shall have the option of (a) converting to a Subcommittee under a CWG pursuant to Section 5.3.1(e), (b) immediately terminating, or (c) continuing in effect without change for 6 months following such approval. For an LWG to continue beyond such 6 months, it must have a charter approved as described in Section 5.3.1 above, as if it was a new Working Group.

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