[cabfpub] [EXTERNAL]Re: Ballot SC5: Election of Server Certificate Working Group Vice Chair

[Kirk Hall]

Ryan – I have said I will add a Proposer and Endorsers to the two ballots, if there are any.  That would then make the ballots the way you want them to be.

Is Google willing to be a Proposer or Endorser on the two ballots?  Get us started, please.

From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi at google.com]
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 10:22 AM
To: Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>
Cc: CABFPub <public at cabforum.org>; Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek at digicert.com>; Wayne Thayer <wthayer at mozilla.com>
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC5: Election of Server Certificate Working Group Vice Chair

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:20 PM Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com<mailto:Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>> wrote:
My arguments are found here:

https://cabforum.org/pipermail/public/2018-September/014069.html

Ryan, you can end this discussion by saying that Google will be the Proposer on the two ballots, Ballot Forum-5 and Ballot SC-5.  Will Google be the Proposer of the two Ballots?

I don't think we'd want to endorse the behaviour of a Chair who consistently, throughout the Chairship, endorses a position of "I'm going to do it my way so deal with it.". That's not productive or responsible chairship, and it's repeated occurrence - from Ballot 190 to present - is a good reason to appreciate a change in leadership and, hopefully, leadership styles.

Google didn’t even vote on our last ballot SC8 for SCWG Chair – I’m not sure why you are so interested in this issue.

Why is your understanding of our interest in that ballot relevant to our interest in ensuring the Bylaws are faithfully carried out? It would seem our interest in the latter would be clear regardless.
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