[cabfpub] Revised draft F2F Agenda for Shanghai meeting

Mon Oct 1 19:04:42 UTC 2018

Actually, the auditor representatives asked me what your presentation “Discussion of current state of audits and membership requirements” will cover, and I said I didn’t know.

Do you have any more details?  Is this a lecture-style presentation, or will this be an interactive presentation where the auditor reps can offer their responses and suggestions?  It may be most useful to get feedback from the auditor reps on specific issues as we go along.

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Thanks for clarifying.

That's unfortunate, because having the time following would provide a lot more flexibility for the representatives to adjust their conversations to the discussion topics and questions raised, providing greater clarity and direction. Presuming the presentations are similar in content and structure to our past F2F, as they have been, will leave a lot of missed opportunity for clarity on the table.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com<mailto:Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>> wrote:
I checked with the WebTrust and ETSI reps, and they don’t think it would be a good idea to move their 15 minute “refresher” course presentations to time slots after the presentations by you and Wayne – their purpose in doing a refresher presentation on existing WebTrust and ETSI reports is to help the Members get more out of the following presentations from you and Wayne.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Revised draft F2F Agenda for Shanghai meeting

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:20 PM Kirk Hall via Public <public at cabforum.org<mailto:public at cabforum.org>> wrote:
Here is an updated Agenda for the Shanghai F2F meeting in just over two weeks.  The draft is based on time requests from different discussion leaders, and as you see the meeting runs too long on Thursday.  I am going to check with discussion leaders to see if they really need all the time they have requested, and will likely make adjustments to this draft.

If you have suggestions or requests, please let me know.

Tuesday, 16 October 2018 - Working Group and Subcommittee Meetings

Start

Stop

Slot

Description

Discussion Leader / Notes

8:00

9:00

Meeting room open

8:30

9:00

Breakfast - Continental

9:00

9:15

Welcome, Preliminary Matters, Logistics, Antitrust Statement

Yi, Kirk

9:15

10:15

1

Forum Infrastructure Working Group Meeting

Jos

10:15

10:35

Break

10:35

12:00

2

Forum Committee of the Whole: Governance and Bylaws Issues Pre-meeting (1) Governance WG or Subcommittee, (2) Review Bylaws Change List

Ben, Jos, Dimitris

12:00

12:45

Lunch

12:45

14:15

3

SCWG Network Security Subcommittee

Ben

14:15

14:35

Break

14:35

16:35

4

SCWG Validation Subcommittee

Tim

16:35

Adjourn

Wednesday, 17 October 2018 - Plenary Meeting (Day 1)

Start

Stop

Slot

Description

Discussion Leader / Notes

8:00

9:00

Meeting room open

8:30

9:00

Breakfast - Continental

9:00

Call to Order and Welcome - CA/Browser Forum Plenary Meeting

Kirk, Yi

9:00

9:15

Recap of Preliminary Matters, Logistics, Antitrust Statement, Assign Minute Taking

Yi, Kirk

9:15

9:30

1

Report from Forum Infrastructure Working Group

Jos

9:30

9:50

2

Report on Governance Change, Bylaws Issues: (1) Governance WG or Subcommittee, (2) Review Bylaws Change List

Ben, Jos, Dimitris

9:50

10:05

3

Potential Amendments to SCWG Charter

Dimitris, Tim

10:05

10:35

4

Creation of additional Working Groups - Code Signing

Ben

10:35

10:50

Break

10:50

11:20

5

Creation of additional Working Groups - Secure Mail; Other

Ben

11:20

11:30

6

Pending Forum Ballots

Kirk

11:30

Adjourn CA/Browser Plenary Meeting

Kirk

11:30

Call to Order - Server Certificate Working Group Plenary Meeting

Kirk

11:30

11:35

Assign Minute Taking

Kirk

11:35

11:55

7

Opera Root Program Update

Tomasz

11:55

12:15

8

Mozilla Root Program Update

Wayne

12:15

12:45

Lunch

12:45

13:05

9

Microsoft Root Program Update

Mike

13:05

13:25

10

Google Root Program Update

Ryan

13:25

13:45

11

Cisco Systems Root Program Update

J.P.

13:45

14:05

12

Apple Root Program Update

Geoff

14:05

14:25

13

360 Root Program Update

Iñigo

14:25

14:55

14

WebTrust Update

Jeff

14:55

15:15

Break

15:15

15:45

15

ETSI Update

Arno, Phillipe

15:45

16:00

16

Report from SCWG Validation Subcommittee

Tim

16:00

16:30

17

Improving validation for identity certificates

Tim

16:30

16:40

Announcements, Evening Social Event

Kirk, Yi

16:40

Adjourn

Evening: Group Social Event -- details to be provided later

Thursday, 18 October 2018 - Plenary Meeting (Day 2)

Start

Stop

Slot

Description

Discussion Leader / Notes

8:00

9:00

Meeting room open

8:30

9:00

Breakfast - Continental

9:00

Continuation of Server Certificate Working Group Plenary Meeting

Kirk

9:00

9:15

Recap of Preliminary Matters, Logistics, Antitrust Statement, Assign Minute Taking

Yi, Kirk

9:15

10:15

18

Report from SCWG Network Security Subcommittee

Ben

10:15

10:35

Break

10:35

10:55

19

Report from SCWG Network Security Subcommittee (continued)

Ben

10:55

11:25

20

Update on London Protocol

Chris

11:25

12:25

21

Report on Name Clash Service

Daymion

12:25

12:55

Lunch

12:55

13:55

22

Potential changes to server certificate issuance processes for increased transparency

Daymion

13:55

Discussion of Audit Terminology, Problems, Ideal Life Cycle for Root CA Audits

13:55

14:10

23

(a) Types of audits/reports under WebTrust<https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust> and their terminology

Jeff, Don

14:10

14:25

24

(b) Types of audits/reports under ETSI and their terminology

Arno, Clemens, Phillipe

14:25

15:15

25

(c) Discussion of current state of audits and membership requirements

Ryan

15:15

15:30

Break

15:30

16:10

26

(c) Discussion of current state of audits and membership requirements (continued)

Ryan

16:10

17:40

27

(d) Audit requirements over the lifecycle of a root

Wayne

17:40

17:45

28

SCWG Ballot Review

17:45

17:50

Review accomplishments, list of tasks, thank you to hosts, next meeting Cupertino, March 12-14, 2019 (Apple)

Kirk

17:50

Transfer of Chair gavel to new Forum and SCWG Chair, Adjourn SCWG Meeting

Kirk, Dimitris

Upcoming F2F Meetings:

2019: Meeting 46 – Cupertino (Apple) March 12-14 2019, Meeting 47 – Thessaloniki, Greece (HARICA) June 11-13 2019, Meeting 48 – Guangzhou (GDCA), October 2019

2020: Meeting 49 - Feb-March 2020 [Open], Meeting 50 – June 2020 – Minneapolis (OATI), Meeting 51 – October 2020 – Tokyo (GlobalSign<https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/GlobalSign>)

2021: Meeting 52 – Feb-March 2021 [Open], Meeting 53 – June 2021 Poland (Asseco), Meeting 54 - October 2021 [Open]

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Kirk,

I think we'll make the most productive use of Slots 23 and 24 if presented after Slot 25 - 27. Having discussion among members that establishes a common vocabulary and understanding can more naturally lead to a discussion by the auditor representatives about their present and planned future audit offerings relevant to CAs and Browsers.
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