[cabfpub] Updated F2F Agenda

Wed Oct 10 16:36:43 MST 2018

Thank you for clarifying that your position.

Considering that it is a prepared presentation, with slides, that
necessarily examines the history of audits so that we can understand "what
was meant", it is appropriate both in chronological order and in the level
of detail to place those sections after.

I'm disappointed that, as Chair, you took a request for a session, and due
to your own interpretation, attempted to segment, reassign, and reorder it
from what was requested. Considering that you have not done that to any
other member or presentation - indeed, no other session on the schedule has
required such discussion or such difficulty - this is an unfortunate
standard being set that does not seem consistent with the expectations of
the Chair.

Considering now that I've suggested the ordering is "past", "present", and
"future", and you've suggested that 23 and 24 are "present", I hope you can
understand why it makes far more valuable use of time to reorder, and I
look forward to you accommodating that.

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:10 AM Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>
wrote:

> I have checked with the presenters for 23 and 24, and they don’t agree
> with you.  I don’t agree with you either.
>
>
>
> Can you explain your thinking?  Segments 23 and 24 are simply 15 minute
> refresher courses for the members on what the **current** range of audit
> reports are, and are intended to help members understand your segment and
> Wayne’s which will follow.  I can’t understand how the 15 minute refresher
> courses would be useful **after** you finish your 90 minutes segment and
> Wayne finishes his 90 minute segment on current audit issues and proposals
> for change.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi at google.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:38 AM
> *To:* Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall at entrustdatacard.com>; CABFPub <
> public at cabforum.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Updated F2F Agenda
>
>
>
> Kirk,
>
>
>
> I would again like to request that you reschedule 23 and 24 after 25, as
> originally, and now repeatedly requested, so that it might be most valuable
> for all participants. It has been rather unfortunate the level of
> difficulty that has been added - in obtaining an agenda slot, as originally
> requested, prior to such updates. I had thought it was a reasonable and
> simple request, so I'm rather surprised at the difficulty it has involved.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 7:59 PM Kirk Hall via Public <public at cabforum.org>
> wrote:
>
> Based on various suggestions, I have updated the Agenda for the Shanghai
> meetings – see below.  Please let me know if you have additional requests.
> Tuesday, 16 October 2018 - Working Group and Subcommittee Meetings
>
> Start
>
> Stop
>
> Slot
>
> Description
>
> Discussion Leader / Notes
>
> 8:00
>
> 9:00
>
> Meeting room open
>
> 8:30
>
> 9:00
>
> Breakfast - Continental
>
> 9:00
>
> 9:15
>
> Welcome, Preliminary Matters, Logistics, Antitrust Statement
>
> Yi, Kirk
>
> 9:15
>
> 10:15
>
> 1
>
> Forum Infrastructure Working Group Meeting
>
> Jos
>
> 10:15
>
> 10:30
>
> Break
>
> 10:30
>
> 12:00
>
> 2
>
> Forum Committee of the Whole: Governance and Bylaws Issues Pre-meeting (1)
> Governance WG or Subcommittee, (2) Review Bylaws Change List
>
> Ben, Jos, Dimitris
>
> 12:00
>
> 12:45
>
> Lunch
>
> 12:45
>
> 14:00
>
> 3
>
> SCWG Network Security Subcommittee
>
> Ben
>
> 14:00
>
> 14:15
>
> Break
>
> 14:15
>
> 16:15
>
> 4
>
> SCWG Validation Subcommittee
>
> Tim
>
> 16:15
>
> Adjourn
>   Wednesday, 17 October 2018 - Plenary Meeting (Day 1)
>
> Start
>
> Stop
>
> Slot
>
> Description
>
> Discussion Leader / Notes
>
> 8:00
>
> 9:00
>
> Meeting room open
>
> 8:30
>
> 9:00
>
> Breakfast - Continental
>
> 9:00
>
> *Call to Order and Welcome - CA/Browser Forum Plenary Meeting*
>
> Kirk, Yi
>
> 9:00
>
> 9:14
>
> Welcome, Recap of Preliminary Matters, Logistics, Antitrust Statement,
> Assign Minute Taking
>
> Yi, Kirk
>
> 9:14
>
> 9:15
>
> 1A
>
> Approval of CABF Minutes from Oct. 4 call (emailed Oct. 5)
>
> Kirk
>
> 9:15
>
> 9:30
>
> 1B
>
> Report from Forum Infrastructure Working Group
>
> Jos
>
> 9:30
>
> 9:45
>
> 2
>
> Report on Governance Change, Bylaws Issues: (1) Governance WG or
> Subcommittee, (2) Review Bylaws Change List
>
> Ben, Jos, Dimitris
>
> 9:45
>
> 10:00
>
> 3
>
> Potential Amendments to SCWG Charter
>
> Dimitris, Tim
>
> 10:00
>
> 10:30
>
> 4
>
> Creation of additional Working Groups - Code Signing
>
> Ben
>
> 10:30
>
> 10:45
>
> Break
>
> 10:45
>
> 11:15
>
> 5
>
> Creation of additional Working Groups - Secure Mail; Other
>
> Ben
>
> 11:15
>
> Adjourn CA/Browser Plenary Meeting
>
> Kirk
>
> 11:15
>
> *Call to Order - Server Certificate Working Group Plenary Meeting*
>
> Kirk
>
> 11:15
>
> 11:19
>
> Assign Minute Taking
>
> Kirk
>
> 11:19
>
> 11:20
>
> 6A
>
> Approval of SCWG Minutes from Oct. 4 call (emailed Oct. 5)
>
> Kirk
>
> 11:20
>
> 11:25
>
> 6B
>
> Opera Root Program Update
>
> Tomasz
>
> 11:25
>
> 11:45
>
> 7
>
> Mozilla Root Program Update
>
> Wayne
>
> 11:45
>
> 12:05
>
> 8
>
> Microsoft Root Program Update
>
> Mike
>
> 12:05
>
> 12:50
>
> Lunch
>
> 12:50
>
> 13:10
>
> 9
>
> Speaker: International Adoption of Chinese Cryptography Algorithms - The
> Implementation and Standardization Progress
>
> Paul Yang, BaishanCloud/OpenSSL
>
> 13:10
>
> 13:30
>
> 10
>
> Speaker: [Algorithms related topic]
>
> [TBD]
>
> 13:30
>
> 13:50
>
> 11
>
> Google Root Program Update
>
> Ryan
>
> 13:50
>
> 14:10
>
> 12
>
> Cisco Systems Root Program Update
>
> J.P.
>
> 14:10
>
> 14:30
>
> 13
>
> Apple Root Program Update
>
> Geoff
>
> 14:30
>
> 14:50
>
> 14
>
> 360 Root Program Update
>
> Iñigo
>
> 14:50
>
> 15:10
>
> 15
>
> ETSI Update
>
> Arno, Phillipe
>
> 15:10
>
> 15:25
>
> Break
>
> 15:25
>
> 15:55
>
> 16
>
> WebTrust Update
>
> Jeff, Don
>
> 15:55
>
> 16:10
>
> 17
>
> Report from SCWG Validation Subcommittee
>
> Tim
>
> 16:10
>
> 16:40
>
> 18
>
> Improving validation for identity certificates
>
> Tim
>
> 16:40
>
> 16:50
>
> Announcements, Evening Social Event
>
> Kirk, Yi
>
> 16:50
>
> Adjourn and take *Group Photo*
>   Thursday, 18 October 2018 - Plenary Meeting (Day 2)
>
> Start
>
> Stop
>
> Slot
>
> Description
>
> Discussion Leader / Notes
>
> 8:00
>
> 9:00
>
> Meeting room open
>
> 8:30
>
> 9:00
>
> Breakfast - Continental
>
> 9:00
>
> *Continuation of Server Certificate Working Group Plenary Meeting*
>
> Kirk
>
> 9:00
>
> 9:15
>
> Recap of Preliminary Matters, Logistics, Antitrust Statement, Assign
> Minute Taking
>
> Yi, Kirk
>
> 9:15
>
> 9:45
>
> 19
>
> Report from SCWG Network Security Subcommittee
>
> Ben
>
> 9:45
>
> 10:15
>
> 20
>
> Update on London Protocol
>
> Chris
>
> 10:15
>
> 10:30
>
> Break
>
> 10:30
>
> 11:00
>
> 21
>
> Report on Name Clash Service
>
> Daymion
>
> 11:00
>
> 11:30
>
> 22
>
> Potential changes to server certificate issuance processes for increased
> transparency
>
> Daymion
>
> 11:30
>
> *Discussion of Audit Terminology, Problems, Ideal Life Cycle for Root CA
> Audits*
>
> 11:30
>
> 11:45
>
> 23
>
> (a) Types of audits/reports under WebTrust
> <https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust> and their terminology
>
> Jeff, Don
>
> 11:45
>
> 12:00
>
> 24
>
> (b) Types of audits/reports under ETSI and their terminology
>
> Arno, Clemens, Phillipe
>
> 12:00
>
> 12:45
>
> Lunch
>
> 12:45
>
> 14:15
>
> 25
>
> (c) Discussion of current state of audits and membership requirements
>
> Ryan
>
> 14:15
>
> 14:30
>
> Break
>
> 14:30
>
> 16:00
>
> 26
>
> (d) Audit requirements over the lifecycle of a root
>
> Wayne
>
> 16:00
>
> 16:10
>
> Review accomplishments, list of tasks, thank you to hosts, next meeting
> Cupertino, March 12-14, 2019 (Apple)
>
> Kirk
>
> 16:10
>
> Transfer of Chair gavel to new Forum and SCWG Chair, *Adjourn SCWG
> Meeting*
>
> Kirk, Dimitris
>
>
>
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