[cabfpub] Is DigiCert a member of the Server Certificate Working Group?

Tim Hollebeek tim.hollebeek at digicert.com
Tue Jul 3 17:22:57 UTC 2018


The Server Certificate Working Group has existed for a long time.  Ballot
206 approved its charter (item 3), effective immediately.  The 90 day
waiting period only affects the Bylaws and IPR policy.


As stated on the governance reform working group, the intent was to mirror
the functioning of the existing forum whenever possible.  As such, it cannot
be the case that the charter refers to Ben Wilson and Kirk Hall in their
personal capacity.  This argument was never made during the development of
the ballot, and was not the intent.  Indeed, neither has signed the IPR
policy in their personal capacity, and are ineligible to serve as chair or
vice chair of the forum in their personal capacity ("The offices of Chair
and Vice Chair may only be filled by Forum Member representatives").  If it
was intended that officers of the SCWG were to serve in their personal
capacity, unlike the main forum, the charter would have certainly pointed
out that important difference.


I think it's quite clear that both persons are serving in their professional
capacity as representatives of their member companies.  I stated on several
occasions that my reading was that DigiCert and Entrust would be the first
two new members of the SCWG, and no one disagreed with me.  I even brought
up the exotic side case of "what happens if DigiCert or Entrust doesn't sign
the IPR policy?" and was rightly accused of being paranoid and was assured
that wouldn't happen.  Both companies have expressed interest in joining the
SCWG, and both have signed the new IPR policy, so I think it's clear at
least that those two companies are members.


Even if that argument doesn't hold, they are also members for the same
reason I believe the SCWG currently has a bunch of other members as well,
since all they have to do is sign the new IPR policy and declare their
intent to participate.  


The Vice Chair suggested three methods of declaring intent to participate:


1.	email the public list, and formally declare their participation in
the Server Certificate Working Group


In case previous declarations have not sufficed, I hereby formally declare
that DigiCert is participating in the Server Certificate Working Group.  I
am willing to repeat this declaration at any time and using any reasonable


2.	subscribe to the mailing list -


Yup, I'm on it.


3.	list self on wiki page


We're on it.  By my count, the number of members already exceeds the quorum
of ten.


So the Server Certificate Working Group exists and has members.  YAY!
Anyone else disagree, and more importantly, can you justify your beliefs
using the bylaws?





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