[cabfpub] Ballot 218: Remove validation methods #1 and #5

[Ryan Sleevi]

Daymion,

Given the proposals so far, do you believe that the 'direct contact' method
satisfies your concerns?

The substantial difference here in the use of .2/.3 vs .1 is that you
actually need to contact the customer for approval prior to issuance. This
seems like it should be an uncontroversially good thing, and not presently
required under .1, as previously demonstrated.

On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Daymion T. Reynolds via Public <
public at cabforum.org> wrote:

> Tim,
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>               I concur with Kirk’s statement about method 1. Method 1
> should be improved, as we should leverage CA/Registrar combos whenever
> possible. With the objective being ownership validation, I can’t think of a
> better method of knowing who actually owns a domain than to have the same
> authoritative customer account order a cert for an owned domain. Performing
> the account check provides a high degree of confidence.
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>
> Regards,
> Daymion
>
> *From:* Public [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] * On Behalf Of *Kirk
> Hall via Public
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 03, 2018 1:10 PM
> *To:* Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek at digicert.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public
> Discussion List <public at cabforum.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 218: Remove validation methods #1 and #5
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> Tim, I thought this issue was going to be discussed first by the VWG, as
> several CAs have indicated they would like to keep (but improve) Method 1.
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> *From:* Public [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org
> <public-bounces at cabforum.org>] *On Behalf Of *Tim Hollebeek via Public
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:22 AM
> *To:* CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public at cabforum.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Ballot 218: Remove validation methods #1
> and #5
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> Ballot 218: Remove validation methods #1 and #5
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> Purpose of Ballot: Section 3.2.2.4 says that it “defines the permitted
> processes and procedures for validating the Applicant’s ownership or
> control of the domain.”  Most of the validation methods actually do
> validate ownership and control, but two do not, and can be completed solely
> based on an applicant’s own assertions.
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> Since these two validation methods do not meet the objectives of section
> 3.2.2.4, and are actively being used to avoid validating domain control or
> ownership, they should be removed, and the other methods that do validate
> domain control or ownership should be used.
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> The following motion has been proposed by Tim Hollebeek of DigiCert and
> endorsed by Ryan Sleevi of Google and Rich Smith of Comodo.
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> -- MOTION BEGINS –
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> This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and
> Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” as follows, based upon Version
> 1.5.4:
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> In Section 3.2.2.4.1, add text at the end: “For certificates issued on or
> after March 1, 2018, this method SHALL NOT be used for validation, and
> completed validations using this method SHALL NOT be used for the issuance
> of certificates.”
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> In Section 3.2.2.4.5, add text at the end: “For certificates issued on or
> after March 1, 2018, this method SHALL NOT be used for validation, and
> completed validations using this method SHALL NOT be used for the issuance
> of certificates.”
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> In Section 4.2.1, after the paragraph that begins “After the change to any
> validation method”, add the following paragraph: “Validations completed
> using methods specified in Section 3.2.2.4.1 or Section 3.2.2.4.5 SHALL NOT
> be re-used on or after March 1, 2018.”
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>
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> -- MOTION ENDS –
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> For the purposes of section 4.2.1, the new text added to 4.2.1 from this
> ballot is “specifically provided in a [this] ballot.”
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> The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:
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> Discussion (7+ days)
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>   Start Time: 2017-01-03  19:30:00 UTC
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>   End Time: Not Before 2017-01-10 19:30:00 UTC
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> Vote for approval (7 days)
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>   Start Time: TBD
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>   End Time: TBD
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