[cabfpub] [EXTERNAL] Base Domain Name correction

Bruce Morton Bruce.Morton at entrustdatacard.com
Fri Jun 30 14:20:07 UTC 2017

Hi Peter,

I thought that the Base Domain Name was made up of two parts: 1) domain name node to a registry-controlled or public suffix, and 2) the registry-controlled or public suffix. So a Base Domain Name can be example.com or example.co.uk.

I also thought that there was an exception if the gTLD had ICANN specification 13 applied. In this case the gTLD could be both 1 and 2. So for .ford, then I could just verify .ford. I think I could also have a server at https://ford. It would be great if that could be confirmed, especially since we might have some experience as I see that .apple, .google and .microsoft are all gTLDs with ICANN specification 13.

Your proposal does not address the exception for specification 13. In fact, I think your proposal is adding items which are part 2 of the Base Domain Name.

Thanks, Bruce.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Base Domain Name correction

The Baseline Requirements have a definition of “Base Domain Name” which seems to reference the wrong ICANN standard.  Right now it says:

> Base Domain Name: The portion of an applied‐for FQDN that is the first domain name node left of a registry‐ controlled or public suffix plus the registry‐controlled or public suffix (e.g. "example.co.uk" or "example.com"). For FQDNs where the right‐most domain name node is a gTLD having ICANN Specification 13 in its registry agreement, the gTLD itself may be used as the Base Domain Name. 

Based on discussions with some colleagues who are very knowledgeable in ICANN processes, I suggest a change to the last sentence to read:

> For FQDNs where the right‐most domain name label is a gTLD for which a Code of Conduct Notice of Exemption was granted by ICANN (https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/base-agreement-contracting/ccer), or where the right-mode domain label is “mil", the gTLD itself may be used as the Base Domain Name. 

The former definition currently references Specification 13, but Spec 13 allows registrations by companies that license trademarks.  For example, independent auto dealers can operate websites under their licensed brand (e.g. http://www.mh-autoforum-giessen.audi/ ).  Conversely, the exemption explicitly says:

1) All domain name registrations in the TLD are registered to, and maintained by, Registry Operator for the exclusive use of Registry Operator or its affiliates
2) Registry Operator does not sell, distribute or transfer control or use of any registrations in the TLD to any third party that is not an affiliate of Registry Operator

This is the appropriate standard to treat the TLD as the registered domain.  There are currently 78 TLDs that have been granted an exemption: .able, .agakhan, .akdn, .allfinanz, .aramco, .axa, .bcn, .bond, .broadway, .cal, .catholic, .cityeats, .crs, .dclk, .dev, .dot, .drive, .erni, .eurovision, .firmdale, .foo, .ftr, .gbiz, .gle, .globo, .goog, .gotv, .guge, .hangout, .helsinki, .imamat, .ismaili, .jprs, .kerryhotels, .kerrylogistics, .kerryproperties, .kfh, .kred, .kuokgroup, .lasalle, .lds, .lifestyle, .living, .mango, .med, .mma, .mormon, .movistar, .neustar, .nra, .observer, .office, .ollo, .play, .pohl, .prod, .quest, .realtor, .redumbrella, .richardli, .sakura, .seat, .shriram, .stc, .stcgroup, .telefonica, .thd, .travelersinsurance, .trv, .vana, .viva, .xn--80aqecdr1a, .xn--mgbi4ecexp, .xn--tiq49xqyj, .yamaxun, xn--mgba3a3ejt, xn--ngbe9e0a, xn--w4r85el8fhu5dnra

The change also recognizes that “mil”, which is a pre-ICANN non-CCTLD, follows the same rules; everything under .mil is part of the United States Department of Defense and .mil has no concept of public registrations.

I believe that this change is in line with the current expectations and will hopefully be non-controversial.


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