[cabfpub] Ballot 183 was approved

[Ryan Sleevi]

Kirk,

I wholly support the ability to move the Forum to a mode where load is not
disproportionately placed on a few members' time, but it does seem to me
that it's not as simple as you propose.

For example, in past activities of the Forum, it involved
1) Having a copy of the correct version of Microsoft Office as what the
'true' document used
2) Having a copy of Adobe Acrobat (and not some "print to PDF product") to
appropriate generate

However, the Forum has previously accepted that "the GitHub versions are
the masters", vis-a-vis
https://github.com/cabforum/documents/tree/master/docs

While this easily allows submitting "Pull Requests" to the Bylaws, and it
thankfully has an automated script to produce the PDF version, that doesn't
include the ability to seamlessly edit the website. Plus, we should strive
to ensure that the updates to the Website truly reflect what's in the
documents and intent.

Since it sounds like you're wholly on board with democraticizing the
maintenance, a view I and others have supported, perhaps some members might
be interested in a 'hackathon' on the Monday prior to our next F2F. We
could use such a hackathon among the more technically minded members to
improve the tooling and automation so that any changes to the documents
will necessarily result in a PDF being produced that's ready. We could also
work through to arrange documentation for best practices, so that perhaps
there may be an opportunity that during the F2F, we can report back with
simple guidance and training on that process.

I would be curious if that's something that some members might be
interested in - again, on the Monday, March 20. If we can get some rough
interest, we can then go about securing a venue for that activity.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <public at cabforum.org>
wrote:

> Ben, that’s nice of you.  Actually, in the past all members, not just the
> Chair and Vice Chair, have pitched in and volunteered their help on
> administrative tasks like amending documents on the website, so in the
> future whoever wants to take first crack on creating a new version of a
> document – your assistance will be appreciated by all.
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> *From:* Public [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] *On Behalf Of *Ben
> Wilson via Public
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 1:00 PM
> *To:* public at cabforum.org
> *Cc:* Ben Wilson <ben.wilson at digicert.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 183 was approved
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> My apologies, I think Kirk asked me to prepare an updated version.  I’ll
> post one today.
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> *Ben Wilson, JD, CISA, CISSP*
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> *From:* Public [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org
> <public-bounces at cabforum.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Sleevi via Public
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 1:57 PM
> *To:* CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public at cabforum.org>
> *Cc:* Ryan Sleevi <sleevi at google.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 183 was approved
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> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <public at cabforum.org>
> wrote:
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> Ballot 183 was *approved* by a vote of 17 yes (100%), 0 no, 0 abstain by
> CAs, and 2 yes (100%), 0 no, 0 abstain by browsers.  The quorum figure was
> 8 votes total, so quorum was achieved.
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> *CA yes votes*: Amazon, ANF Autoridad de Certificacion, Buypass AS,
> Chunghwa Telecom, Cisco, Comodo, DigiCert, Disig a.s., Entrust Datacard,
> GlobalSign, GoDaddy, HARICA, Izenpe S.A., SwissSign AG, Symantec,
> Trustwave, and TurkTrust,
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> *Browser yes votes*: Apple, Mozilla
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> We will soon publish and updated version of the Bylaws reflecting the
> changes from Ballot 183.  Members can begin filing new Ballots in
> compliance with these new procedures – we will need to modify the verbiage
> at the end of a ballot as a result.  If you have a ballot that is ready,
> please consult with Ben, Peter, or me as to the verbiage to add at the end
> of the ballot.
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> Good to have this done!  Thanks to all.
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> Kirk
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> Kirk,
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> It's been nine days since this Ballot was approved, but a new version of
> the Bylaws has not yet been published at https://cabforum.org/bylaws/
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> Can you indicate when you expect to do so?
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> Thanks.
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