[cabfpub] givenName and surname revived

Sat Aug 20 11:41:40 UTC 2016

OK, permit givenName and surname, and also permit O field now since CA need time to update the system.
This ballot is for our IV SSL comply with BR that we don't like to use O field to confuse site visitor.

Regards,

Richard

> On 20 Aug 2016, at 11:33, Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.rowley at digicert.com> wrote:
> 
> I don’t agree with this. We should permit givenName and surname for now, but still permit O fields. There isn’t a good reason to switch over until after we’ve seen the impact of moving to givenName and surname instead of the O field.  The language for the state/locality is the same. An IV or OV cert requires either a state or locality.  The OIDs are already clearly defined under Section 7.1.6.1 of the BRs. This wouldn’t change.  
>  
> Jeremy
>  
> From: public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Richard Wang
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 9:42 AM
> To: Bruce Morton <Bruce.Morton at entrust.com>
> Cc: public at cabforum.org
> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] givenName and surname revived
>  
> See below inline, thanks.
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Richard
> 
> On 19 Aug 2016, at 20:40, Bruce Morton <Bruce.Morton at entrust.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeremy,
>  
> Would like some clarification. On the call yesterday, it was said that IV certificates were not defined, so this ballot will help resolve this.
>  
> Per 7.1.4.2.2 b, the current BRs allow givenName and surname to be included in the organizationName field. Will this still be allowed? If so, what would the certificate type be? OV or IV? I would prefer that these be OV certificates.
>  
> R: I think we need to update this item in the same time that the givenName and surname to be included in the organizationName field is not allowed. This will confuse the site visitor think the personal name is a registered company name.
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> 
> 
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> If we do make the changes and the CAs have to meet Microsoft’s requirement to put a DV, OV, or IV certificate policy in the certificate, I think we should clearly define each certificate type.
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> R: Yes.
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> Also, the stateOrProvinceName field appears to currently have an issue as it does not have any language to address the case where there is no state or province in the address.
>  
> R: I think locality and state/province must have one.
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>  
> Thanks, Bruce.
>  
> From: public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Rowley
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:09 PM
> To: public at cabforum.org
> Subject: [cabfpub] givenName and surname revived
>  
> Looking for two endorsers for the following revisions the baseline requirements adding support for givenName and surname:
>  
> Insert a new (C) under 7.1.4.2.2, renumbering all subsequent bullets.
>  
> c. Certificate Field: subject:givenName (2.5.4.42) and subject:surname (2.5.4.4)
> Optional.
> Contents:  If present, the subject:givenName field and subject:surname field MUST contain an natural person Subject’s name as verified under Section 3.2.3. A Certificate containing a subject:givenName field or subject:surname field MUST contain the (2.23.140.1.2.3) Certificate Policy OID.
>  
> d. Certificate Field: Number and street: subject:streetAddress (OID: 2.5.4.9)
>     Optional if the subject:organizationName field, subject: givenName field, or subject:surname field are is present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName, and subject:surname field are is absent.
>    Contents: If present, the subject:streetAddress field MUST contain the Subject’s street address information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.
>  
> e. Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7)
> Required if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are is present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field is absent. Optional if the subject:stateOrProvinceName field and the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname  field are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName, and subject:surname field are is absent.
> Contents: If present, the subject:localityName field MUST contain the Subject’s locality information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g), the localityName field MAY contain the Subject’s locality and/or state or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.
>  
> f. Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8)
> Required if the subject:organizationName field field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are is present and the subject:localityName field is absent. Optional if the subject:localityName field and the subject:organizationName field, the subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field , or subject:surname field are is absent. Contents: If present, the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MUST contain the Subject’s state or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g), the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MAY contain the full name of the Subject’s country information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.
>  
> g. Certificate Field: subject:postalCode (OID: 2.5.4.17)
> Optional if the subject:organizationName, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname fields are is present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname field are is absent.
> Contents: If present, the subject:postalCode field MUST contain the Subject’s zip or postal information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1.
>  
> h. Certificate Field: subject:countryName (OID: 2.5.4.6)
> Required if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName , or subject:surname field is present. Optional if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, and  subject:surname field are is absent.
> Contents: If the subject:organizationName field is present, the subject:countryName MUST contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the location of the Subject verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the subject:organizationName, subject:givenName field, and subject:surname  field are  is absent, the subject:countryName field MAY contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the Subject as verified in accordance with Section 3.2.2.3. If a Country is not represented by an official ISO 3166‐1 country code, the CA MAY specify the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX indicating that an official ISO 3166‐1 alpha‐2 code has not been assigned.
>  
> i. Certificate Field: subject:organizationalUnitName
> Optional.
> Contents: The CA SHALL implement a process that prevents an OU attribute from including a name, DBA, tradename, trademark, address, location, or other text that refers to a specific natural person or Legal Entity unless the CA has verified this information in accordance with Section 3.2 and the Certificate also contains subject:organizationName, subject:givenName, subject:surname, subject:localityName, and subject:countryName attributes, also verified in accordance with Section 3.2.2.1.
>  
> 7.1.6.1
> …
> If the Certificate asserts the policy identifier of 2.23.140.1.2.1, then it MUST NOT include organizationName, givenName, surname, streetAddress, localityName, stateOrProvinceName, or postalCode in the Subject field.
> …
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