[cabfpub] Intermediate certificate names

Geoff Keating geoffk at apple.com
Tue Mar 10 21:38:41 UTC 2015

I was speaking loosely.  The actual definition from the BRs is that the CA is "An organization that is responsible for the creation, issuance, revocation, and management of Certificates."

> On 10 Mar 2015, at 2:27 pm, Jeremy Rowley <jeremy.rowley at digicert.com> wrote:
> Here's a realistic scenario that I think demonstrates a lot of the complication:
> 1) CA1 signs a cert for CA2 (cross-sign)
> 2) CA3 hosts the infrastructure for CA2 (hosting)
> 3) RA1 does all the validation and approves issuance of the cert.
> What is the name of the intermediate and who controls the private key? 

So, in this case, the organization that is *responsible* is probably CA2.  They oversee RA1, they have a contract with CA3.  CA1 probably won't want to be responsible for CA2's operations.  CA3 will say "we're just hosting, we have no liability for anything".

You can do this backwards, by saying that the organization named in the certificate is the CA and therefore is responsible; so, the real question is, as the CA issuing the intermediate, who do you trust to be responsible?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] On Behalf Of Rob Stradling
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:24 PM
> To: Geoff Keating; Erwann Abalea
> Cc: public at cabforum.org
> Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Intermediate certificate names
> What does it actually mean to "hold" a private key?
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/holder says:
> "a person who holds or owns something"
> If Bozo, Inc owns a private key but DigiCert controls it, who is the CA?

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