[cabfpub] Ballot 117 - EV Code Signing Guidelines Corrections
sleevi at google.com
Mon Mar 24 09:34:08 MST 2014
Google votes "no" as well.
Rob's raises many legitimate concerns, and we would rather see the Forum
address these concerns first. The continued growth of scope for the Forum
represents an issue we have expressed previously, so it would be healthy to
resolve this, rather than presuming the status quo.
As Rob mentioned, there is only one program that has adopted these
requirements, and no others that have expressed interest, so such a delay
in changes can always be dealt with by the vendor directly if they are
On Mar 21, 2014 7:40 AM, "Rob Stradling" <rob.stradling at comodo.com> wrote:
> Comodo votes "no".
> Comodo strongly supports the concept of EV Code Signing, and would very
> much like to see wider implementation and participation. However, as
> far as we are aware, EV Code Signing has been implemented by only a
> single vendor with only two CA participants in that vendor's program.
> Therefore, as Section 1.2 of the Bylaws of the CA/B Forum states that
> the purpose of the Forum is to meet and discuss matters of common
> interest, we do not believe the EV Code Signing Guidelines to be a
> matter of common interest for the Forum at this time. Specifically,
> absent wider implementation and participation in the use of this
> standard, additional work now by the CA/B Forum on this topic will be in
> contravention of Section 1.2 of the Bylaws.
> Moreover, Section 1.3 of the Bylaws of the CA/B Forum states that Forum
> Members shall not use their participation in the Forum either to promote
> their own products and offerings or to restrict or impede the products
> and offerings of other Members. Given the current level of
> implementation and participation in EV Code Signing, Comodo currently
> cannot vote in favour of Ballot 117, because agreements, understandings,
> or protocols reached in the context of standard setting efforts may
> violate antitrust laws if the effective result of such efforts is to
> restrain competition.
> On 10/03/14 16:24, Ben Wilson wrote:
> > Ballot 117 - EV Code Signing Guidelines Corrections
> > Jeremy Rowley of DigiCert made the following motion, and Iñigo Barreira
> > of Izenpe and Rick Andrews of Symantec endorsed it.
> > There are two issues with the EV code signing guidelines that need
> > correction:
> > 1. Section 9.2.2 of the EV code signing guidelines recommends that CAs
> > not include the SAN extension in an EV certificate. However, section
> > 9.7 requires that an EV certificate include
> > subjectAltName:permanentIdentifier. Because the main concern is that a
> > CA might include a domain name in the SAN extension, we should specify
> > that this practice is not allowed and recognize that other information
> > may be present.
> > 2. Because the EV Code Signing Guidelines were originally based on the
> > EV Guidelines for SSL, Section 9.2.3 of the EV code signing guidelines
> > deprecates the CN field. However, the CABF Code Signing Working Group
> > received a report that this field is still required by code signing
> > applications. We should still include the CN in code signing
> > certificates for the Subscriber’s legal name, even though the field is
> > deprecated for use in SSL/TLS certificates.
> > ---Motion Begins---
> > Effective immediately:
> > a. Replace section 9.2.2 with the following:
> > “9.2.2 Subject Alternative Name Extension
> > This field MUST be present and MUST contain the permanentIdentifier
> > specified in Section 9.7. This field MUST NOT contain a Domain Name or
> > IP Address.”
> > b. Amend section 9.2.3 as follows:
> > “9.2.2 Subject Common Name Field
> > Certificate field: subject:commonName (OID 220.127.116.11)
> > Required/Optional: Required
> > Contents: This field MUST contain the Subject’s legal name as verified
> > under Section 11.2.“
> > ---Motion ends---
> > Motion Ends
> > The review period for this ballot shall commence at 2200 UTC on Monday,
> > 10 March 2014, and will close at 2200 UTC on Monday, 17 March 2014.
> > Unless the motion is withdrawn during the review period, the voting
> > period will start immediately thereafter and will close at 2200 UTC on
> > Monday, 24 March 2014.
> > Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to this thread.
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> > A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response.
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> > Unclear responses will not be counted.
> > The latest vote received from any representative of a voting member
> > before the close of the voting period will be counted.
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> > In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes
> > cast by members in the CA category and more than one half of the votes
> > cast by members in the browser category must be in favor.
> > Quorum is currently six (6) members– at least six members must
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> > by abstaining for the vote to be valid.
> Rob Stradling
> Senior Research & Development Scientist
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