[cabfpub] Ballot for Amendment to Bylaw 5.3 change re creation of Working Groups

[Chema López González]

My opinion is that the mechanism proposed provides complexity and a point
of subjectivity and, therefore, does not improve the current ballot-based
process.

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*Chema López*
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On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:06 PM, kirk_hall at trendmicro.com <
kirk_hall at trendmicro.com> wrote:

>  Ben, I think the preliminary discussion of this proposal is complete.
> Can you post this as a ballot?  There have been no further changes.
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> Thanks.
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> *From:* public-bounces at cabforum.org [mailto:public-bounces at cabforum.org] *On
> Behalf Of *kirk_hall at trendmicro.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:02 AM
> *To:* CABFPub (public at cabforum.org)
> *Subject:* [cabfpub] Draft Bylaw 5.3 change re creation of Working Groups
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> We had a discussion at our last meeting about the possible need to change
> Bylaws 5.3 in two ways (1) to eliminate the need for a formal Ballot to
> create a Working Group that may include Forum Members and other Interested
> Parties from outside the membership, but to allow formation of Working
> Groups through a simpler method, and (2) to clarify that temporary Member
> committees can be appointed by the Chair at any time to complete research,
> analysis, and drafting of proposals for the membership that don’t rise to
> the level of a Working Group (and to follow our current practices on such
> matters).  I agreed to present a draft.
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> The attached draft amends Bylaw 5.3 to allow Working Groups to be
> appointed on concurrence of the Chair and Vice Chair together, but only
> after consultation on the Public list and discussion at at least one
> meeting or teleconference of the Members.  If there is specific objection
> by at least five Members, the discussion must continue for at least another
> 30 days, but at the conclusion the decision of whether or not to create the
> Working Group is up to the Chair and Vice Chair by joint agreement.  The
> amendments also clarify that informal temporary committees of Members can
> continue to be created to work on matters being discussed by the Forum that
> don’t rise to the level of a Working Group (e.g., ideas for consideration,
> final ballot language, etc.).
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> See below and attached.
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> I welcome all comments and proposed edits.
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>
> *Kirk R. Hall*
>
> Operations Director, Trust Services
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> Trend Micro
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> +1.503.753.3088
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> *Bylaw 5.3     Working Groups*
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> Members may propose *by ballot* the appointment of Working Groups open to
> participation by Members and Interested Parties *with details outlining **The
> ballot shall outline* the scope of the Working Group’s activities, in
> cluding deliverables, any limitations, and Working Group expiration date. Upon
> approval of the Working Group *draft proposal by the Chair and Vice
> Chair, the proposal will be published to the public list for discussion for
> at least one week, and will be discussed by the Members during at least one
> teleconference or face to face meeting, or for such longer discussion
> period as the Chair may determine.  If the Chair and Vice Chair believe
> there is substantial consensus supporting creation of the Working Group,
> they may announce its creation with such changes to its scope,
> deliverables, limitations, and expiration date as they may choose based on
> the prior proposal discussion.  If five or more Members specifically object
> to the formation of the proposed Working Group, discussion on the matter
> will continue for at least one additional 30 day period, after which time
> the Chair and Vice Chair may create the proposed Working Group in the
> manner described in the previous sentence, or may choose not to create the
> proposed Working Group.  If a Working Group is created*, the Chair will ca
> ll for a show of interest in participation by Members, and shall appoint a
> Working Group Chair from among the interested Members.
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> Upon creation of a Working Group, the Forum will post an invitation to all
> Interested Parties to participate, and will solicit others with expertise
> and interest in the Working Group subject matter to become Interested
> Parties and participate in the Working Group.  With the approval of the
> Chair, Working Groups may establish separate list-servs, wikis, and web
> pages for their communications, but all such separate list-servs must be m
> anaged in the same fashion as the Public Mail List. Working Groups may
> meet by teleconference or face-to-face meetings upon approval by the Chair
> and the Working Group Chair, but the Forum shall not be responsible for
> the expenses of any such teleconferences or meetings.
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> Working Groups may draft recommendations to be forwarded to the Forum for
> its consideration, but no recommendations will be considered the product
> of the Working Group unless approved by two-thirds of all Working Group
> members who vote on the recommendations. All substantial initial and final
> drafts of the Working Group product will be posted on the Public Mail
> List.
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> The Forum shall review the final recommendations from a Working Groups and
> may approve and implement some or all of the recommendations as appro
> priate in the Forum’s judgment following the Forum’s regular voting rules.
> The Forum shall retain the right to amend a Working Group recommendation
> before approval, but in most cases should first return the proposed
> amended recommendation to the Working Group for its review and response
> before voting.
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> The Forum shall not be required to submit any matter to a Working Group,
> but may itself draft requirements and guidelines without a Working Group
> in its discretion.
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> *This section shall not apply to the creation of informal temporary
> committees of the Forum Members, which may be appointed by the Chair at any
> time for purposes of researching, analyzing, and drafting proposals and
> ballots for presentation to the Forum Members for routine matters which do
> not rise to the level of a Working Group.*
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