[cabf_governance] draft of ballot and bylaws

[Dean Coclin]

We discussed this on the call today and decided not to pursue at this time.

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Subject: RE: [cabf_governance] draft of ballot and bylaws

Dean, what if we have a different voting rule for creation of new WGs at the Forum level – something like “the charter for a new WG will be approved if supported by EITHER the vote of 2/3 of voting CAs and a majority of voting browsers, OR if supported by a vote of 80 percent of voting CAs and browsers counted as a single class”.

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Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabf_governance] draft of ballot and bylaws

Yes, but that would take a coordinated effort among a large number of players. Conversely, under the current structure, a small group of browsers/non-CAs could block a WG that the CAs propose. Is that fair?

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Subject: Re: [cabf_governance] draft of ballot and bylaws

Hi Dean,

Under that model, the CAs could always block a WG that the browsers/non-CAs proposed.  So that doesn’t seem fair or reasonable.



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Virginia Fournier
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On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Dean Coclin <Dean_Coclin at symantec.com<mailto:Dean_Coclin at symantec.com>> wrote:

One suggestion I would like to make is regarding the ballot for creation of working groups. As it stands now, once a charter is created and presented for ballot,  this voting would occur at the Forum level under the current Forum voting bloc rules. This seems unfair to me as one group (i.e. CAs or Browsers) could marshal resources to block the creation of a working group. Shouldn’t this vote have equal weight of all members? I’d like to hear various opinions on this.

Thanks,
Dean

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Best regards,

Virginia Fournier
Senior Standards Counsel
 Apple Inc.
☏ 669-227-9595
✉︎ vmf at apple.com<mailto:vmf at apple.com>

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