[Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Voting Begins: Ballot CSC-11: Update to log data retention

Bruce Morton Bruce.Morton at entrust.com
Tue Sep 28 15:46:55 UTC 2021

Hi Dimitris,

Do we have any action for ballot CSC-11?


From: Cscwg-public <cscwg-public-bounces at cabforum.org> On Behalf Of Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Cscwg-public
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:43 AM
To: Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public <cscwg-public at cabforum.org>
Subject: Re: [Cscwg-public] [EXTERNAL] Voting Begins: Ballot CSC-11: Update to log data retention

Hi Bruce,

According to the Bylaws section 2.3 (3), it is possible for the discussion period to be more than 7 days so the proposer of the ballot must explicitly start the voting period which is for exactly 7 days. I don't think Ian started the voting period.

"Once no new version of the ballot has been posted for seven (7) calendar days, the proposer may end the discussion period and start the voting period by reposting the final version of the ballot and clearly indicating that voting is to begin, along with the start and end dates and times (including time zone) for the voting period"

Also, Ian's original email had a link to the wiki, which is not publicly available (thus not acceptable according to the Bylaws), but the redline that was attached met the requirements. This redline needs to be re-sent when Ian starts the voting period.

I am highlighting this for future ballots so that if there is only a pointer to a redline hosted at an external site, the link must be pointing to a public and immutable redline.

Sorry for reporting this but it's best to do this right than having challenges in the future.


On 27/9/2021 3:11 μ.μ., Bruce Morton via Cscwg-public wrote:
Entrust votes Yes to ballot CSC-11.


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Purpose of this ballot:
Update the log data and retention of log data requirements in the Baseline Requirement for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Code Signing Certificates v2.5. The following motion has been proposed by Ian McMillan of Microsoft, and endorsed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) and Bruce Morton (Entrust).


This ballot updates the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly‐Trusted Code Signing Certificates“ version 2.5 according to the attached redline which includes:

  1.  Update section 15 “Data Records” removing references to [SSL/TLS] Baseline Requirements for this section in totality
  2.  Update section 15 “Data Records” to include sub-section 15.1 “Types of Events Recorded” and describing the requirements for CAs and Third Party Delegates while removing “Signing Services”
  3.  Update section 15 “Data Records” to include sub-section 15.2 “Timestamp Authority Data Records”
  4.  Update section 15.1 to clarify 4(f) for security event logging on Timestamp Authority servers
  5.  Update section 15.1 on 4(d) for security event logging to no longer include “hardware failures”
  6.  Update section 15 “Data Records” to include sub-section 15.3 “Data Retention Period for Audit Logs”
  7.  Update section 15.2 to no longer reference Baseline Requirements section 5.4.3 and defined a specific retention period for CA, subscriber certificate, Timestamp Authority, and security event data records for at least 2 years


The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:

Discussion (7 days)
Start Time: 2021-09-17, 19:00 Eastern Time (US)
End Time: not before 2021-09-24, 19:00 Eastern Time (US)

Vote for approval (7 days)
Start Time: 2021-09-24, 19:00 Eastern Time (US)
End Time: 2021-10-01, 19:00 Eastern Time (US)

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