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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Validation Subcommittee Meeting: August 24, 2023<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Attendance <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Aaron Gable (Let's Encrypt), Aaron Poulsen (Amazon), Abhishek Bhat (eMudhra), Andrea Holland (VikingCloud), Aneta Wojtczak-Iwanicka (Microsoft), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bilal Ashraf (SSL.com), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Clements (Google),
Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), Daryn Wright (GoDaddy), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Inigo Barreira (Sectigo), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Michael Slaughter
(Amazon), Michelle Coon (OATI), Nargis Mannan (VikingCloud), Nome Huang (TrustAsia Technologies, Inc.), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Roman Fischer (SwissSign), Ryan Dickson (Google), Scott Rea (eMudhra), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera
Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>Minutes<o:p></o:p></u></b></p>
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<b>Note-well: </b>Corey B. read.<b><o:p></o:p></b></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<b>Approval of minutes</b>: <o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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<span lang="ES">June 29 minutes approved.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>Threat Modeling </b>– Corey B.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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No update this week, will meet next week.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>Presentation by Q Misell on Sept 7th </b>– Corey B.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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Presenting proposal for CAA checking for .onion domain names in two weeks.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
Work around using ACME protocol for automated issuance of certificates.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>MPDV/MPIC</b> – Ryan D.<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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Princeton close to signing IPR.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
Request feedback on pull request. <o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
Implementation dates will likely shift back.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1">
Potential open-source projects for implementation.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<b>Clean up items:</b><o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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<span style="mso-ligatures:none">Term to encompass the concept of a current Subscriber that has submitted a certificate request for a new certificate.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Discussion around Applicant/Subscriber as Applicant or Subscriber vs Applicant and Subscriber vs a new term.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Item to be brought to the Definitions WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="mso-ligatures:none">Draft language for Section 1.3.3, where a CA is issuing certificates to itself:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Ben W. will create a GitHub issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="mso-ligatures:none">References to "hosting service" in section 9.6.3 and other locations.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Discussion on the wording and use cases.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Create issue in SeverCert WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Sections 4.1 and 4.2 clarify what a "certificate request" is comprised of.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Further discussion needed.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Adding label to GitHub issue for validation subcommittee.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Terms of Use when the Subscriber is the CA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Create issue in ServerCert WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><b><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">7.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span></b><![endif]><b><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">To do items:
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Revive ballot to distinguish Secret vs. Freshness Random Values.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Create GitHub issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Clarify that CAs must maintain validation records for their own Certificates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Items being addressed by proposal to change Section 1.3.3 will address this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-ligatures:none"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Fix issue in 3.2.5 to avoid requiring identity verification for DV certificates requested by natural persons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:black;mso-ligatures:none">Create GitHub issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Next Meeting </b>– September 7<b><o:p></o:p></b></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:-.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
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