<div dir="ltr">Let's Encrypt performs multi-perspective CAA checking during initial validation, when we are also performing multi-perspective domain control validation. We do not see any particular increase in failure rates due to CAA checking specifically. It is worth noting that Let's Encrypt does not do any Authorization Domain coalescing: if a certificate request contains 50 domains all under the same base domain, we will still conduct validation for all 50 domains individually. So multi-perspective CAA is not causing us to perform 51 queries instead of 1, it's causing us to perform 100 queries instead of 50 (from each perspective).<div><br></div><div>However, if certificate issuance is occurring more than 8 hours after initial validation, and CAA needs to be re-checked, we then do that re-checking only from our primary vantage point. This is because many ACME clients do not support asynchronous finalization, so the CAA recheck has to happen while the client is maintaining an open connection during its Finalize call.</div><div><br></div><div>Aaron</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:30 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Validation <<a href="mailto:validation@cabforum.org">validation@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div>
    <br>
    After revisiting this issue, I somewhat agree with Pedro's
    assessment that for the "Agreed-upon change to website" and "DNS"
    methods, checking CAA DNS records from multiple vantage points is
    redundant and will only create additional cost and delays without
    any significant security improvements.<br>
    <br>
    To give an example, assume a CA receives a request to include 50
    Domain Names and the Applicant chooses to use the "DNS Change"
    Domain Validation method. Some of those Domain Names may contain the
    same Base Domain Name. In that case, it is likely that the CA will
    only need to validate the Base Domain Names, but the CAA query must
    take place for all Domain Names requested.<br>
    <br>
    The DNS checks for the Random Value or Request Token would be
    optimized and would result to the least amount of traffic and delay.
    MPDV would protect against BGP hijacking so the Domain Validation is
    covered, even if the CAA records are assumed to be "hijacked".<br>
    <br>
    If the CA is using 3 locations for MPDV (in addition to the main
    audited location), the CAA checks will result in 4 times more
    traffic (200 queries instead of 50), just for the CAA. And that's
    just for 1 certificate. <br>
    <br>
    Therefore, I would recommend removing the mandatory requirement to
    check CAA records via multiple vantage points in the first
    implementation of the MPDV concept, in order to first evaluate the
    effectiveness and possible issues that will come up. If the group
    determines that MPDV works as designed/expected and that the
    additional traffic caused is not an issue, we could explore adding
    multiple vantage point checks for CAA records as well, but focusing
    more on the non-DNS/agreed-upon change to website methods.<br>
    <br>
    It would also be helpful to hear from CAs that already implement
    MPDV (Let's Encrypt ?) if they also query CAA records from multiple
    vantage points for each issuance and how this has affected their
    traffic volume and resources.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Best regards,<br>
    Dimitris.<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 21/6/2023 11:38 μ.μ., Pedro FUENTES
      via Validation wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      Thanks, Martin, for the additional insights.
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Yes, tricking CAA to use mail validation is the risk I can
        see, as other methods would rely on MPDV and issuance seems to
        be prevented as far I can see. I was trying to figure out the
        other situations identified below.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Now about “Since Attacker can perform a BGP hijack on CA B,
        they’re able to reroute the email to their own servers”… I think
        this is not so straightforward as it sounds, because nowadays is
        more and more rare that companies run their own mail servers,
        but there’s a trend to use cloud services for email… so the BGP
        hijack would need to attack the service provider (Amazon,
        Microsoft and the like), and that’s not so easy as just
        rerouting IP traffic in the CA endpoint.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Anyway, if the conclusion here is that the reason to apply
        MPDV to CAA is that we thunk that e-mail based DCV is unsafe,
        then I guess we’re opening up a Pandora Box… :)</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Cheers,</div>
      <div>Pedro<br>
        <div><br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div>On 21 Jun 2023, at 22:08, Martijn Katerbarg <a href="mailto:martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com" target="_blank"><martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com></a>
              wrote:</div>
            <br>
            <div>
              
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                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Pedro,<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Just adding
                    my thoughts here. In my opinion items 1, 2 and 3 all
                    tie together.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Say that
                    Company X wants their domains completely secured.
                    They lock in on 1 CA, thus setting a CAA record
                    allowing issuance only by CA A.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">They’ve
                    chosen CA A, because CA A has disabled DCV through
                    email validation (or, have found a way to make this
                    MPDV compliant) and has implemented MPDV for both
                    CAA record checking, as well as their DCV options.<br>
                    <br>
                    So far so good.<br>
                    <br>
                    But now, Attacker wants to try to obtain a
                    certificate for one of Company X their domains. Upon
                    investigation, they notice that Company X only
                    allows issuance by CA A, and due to MPDV, they
                    cannot use BGP hijacking as an attack vector.<br>
                    <br>
                    So, Attacker goes instead to CA B. CA B has
                    implemented MPDV for several options, but not for
                    email validation. Since Attacker can perform a BGP
                    hijack on CA B, they’re able to reroute the email to
                    their own servers.  Now as Attacker has done BGP
                    Hijacking, they’re also able to spoof the CAA DNS
                    record, thus, showing CA B a valid CAA record, for
                    CA B to issue the certificate.<br>
                    <br>
                    As such, while Company X has taken all precautions,
                    a weak link in this chain, can circumvent the entry
                    of the checks.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">(And as such,
                    in time I expect we will see Email DCV go away, but
                    probably not as the first step of enabling MPDV)<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US">Regards,<br>
                    <br>
                    Martijn<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span lang="en-SE"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><span> </span>Validation
                        <<a href="mailto:validation-bounces@cabforum.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">validation-bounces@cabforum.org</a>><span> </span><b>On
                          Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Pedro
                        FUENTES via Validation<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Wednesday,
                        21 June 2023 19:19<br>
                        <b>To:</b><span> </span>Ryan
                        Dickson <<a href="mailto:ryandickson@google.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ryandickson@google.com</a>><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b><span> </span>CA/Browser
                        Forum Validation SC List <<a href="mailto:validation@cabforum.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">validation@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
                        [cabf_validation] [EXTERNAL]-Re: Question about
                        MPDV and CAA<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                <div style="border:1pt solid black;padding:2pt">
                  <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;line-height:12pt;background:rgb(250,250,3)"><span style="font-size:10pt">CAUTION:
                      This email originated from outside of the
                      organization. Do not click links or open
                      attachments unless you recognize the sender and
                      know the content is safe.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                </div>
                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                <div>
                  <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi Ryan,<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks for the
                      reply. This make things much clear to me.<u></u><u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">My
                      interpretation of your risk scenarios are:<u></u><u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <ol style="margin-bottom:0cm" type="1" start="1">
                      <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Enabling a CA that allows email
                        validation… this implies that the attacker not
                        only hijacks the network, but also controls the
                        validation email. For me this risk effectively
                        exists, but I’d assume low likelihood (else the
                        email validations methods should be considered
                        insecure and disallowed in the BR).<u></u><u></u></li>
                      <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Disabling CAA checks such as
                        account binding… considering that MPDV must
                        still be used to prove domain control, I still
                        fail to see the risk here…For example, the
                        attacker could skip some ACME security features…
                        but I’d say that the issuance would still be
                        prevented thanks to MPDV.<u></u><u></u></li>
                      <li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">“no-issue” CAA record… again, given
                        than MPDV must still be used, I fail to see the
                        risk.<u></u><u></u></li>
                    </ol>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Can you please
                      elaborate your comments con scenarios #2 and #3…
                      How the issuance could succeed given the fact that
                      MPDV must be still used for domain control
                      validation? <u></u><u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Any security
                        countermeasure must necessarily exist to
                        mitigate a risk that, not only exists, but it
                        has a level (combination of impact and
                        likelihood) that justifies its mitigation… it’s
                        evident that the impact is very high
                        (misissuance), but I’d like to fully understand
                        the risk level.<u></u><u></u></div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Just in case…
                      we are fine deploying distributed CAA checks if
                      required, but I’d like to fully understand the
                      rational here… mostly because CA systems that are
                      more complex and with critical components
                      distributed in the cloud will also increase the
                      attack surface and risks for the CA itself.<u></u><u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Best,<u></u><u></u></div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Pedro<u></u><u></u></div>
                  </div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                  </div>
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                        <br>
                        <u></u><u></u></div>
                      <blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                        <div>
                          <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On 21 Jun
                            2023, at 15:18, Ryan Dickson <<a href="mailto:ryandickson@google.com" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ryandickson@google.com</a>>
                            wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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                        <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                        <div>
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                            <div>
                              <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi
                                Pedro,<br>
                                <br>
                                Thanks for taking the time to review the
                                proposal - and for your question. Also,
                                sorry for the delayed response - I’ve
                                been out of the office for a few days. <span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
                              <div>
                                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
                                  The researchers at Princeton initially
                                  advised us to evaluate both domain
                                  validation challenges and CAA records
                                  to add resilience to the issuance
                                  process. Specifically, the goal was to
                                  make it more difficult for an
                                  adversary to launch what they
                                  described as a “downgrade attack.”<br>
                                  <br>
                                  For example, let’s consider a domain
                                  owner who used CAA to restrict
                                  issuance to a set of CAs that do not
                                  support email-based domain control
                                  validation because they do not want to
                                  allow validation of their domain to
                                  occur via email. Also, suppose we
                                  aren’t checking CAA from multiple
                                  Network Perspectives. In this case,
                                  it’d be easier for an adversary to
                                  downgrade the issuance process because
                                  they would only need to launch one
                                  successful attack (the perspective
                                  used by the CA to establish the
                                  primary determination) to subvert CAA
                                  and allow a CA not included in the set
                                  of CAs permitted to issue a
                                  certificate to the domain to do so. In
                                  contrast, if CAA was checked across
                                  multiple Network Perspectives, the
                                  adversary would need to launch a
                                  global BGP attack to obtain a
                                  certificate for the target domain
                                  (harder to accomplish and not always
                                  viable by the adversary, for example,
                                  they might only have the means to
                                  accomplish a local or regional
                                  attack).<br>
                                  <br>
                                  We also see layers of security built
                                  on top of CAA, for example, Account
                                  Binding and Validation Method Binding
                                  as specified by RFC 8657. These
                                  extensions allow organizations to
                                  restrict issuance to specific 1)
                                  account IDs or 2) ACME domain
                                  validation methods. Not checking CAA
                                  records from multiple perspectives
                                  allows an adversary to more easily
                                  downgrade these additional security
                                  measures (based on the same approach
                                  described above) and then target the
                                  added attack surface these records
                                  were intended to eliminate.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  The “no-issue” CAA record (i.e., CAA 0
                                  issue “;”) is another example where
                                  the CAA record has a significant
                                  impact on issuance behavior. If CAA is
                                  not being checked from multiple
                                  perspectives, this is another security
                                  control that can be more easily
                                  downgraded than if CAA is being
                                  checked from multiple perspectives.<span> </span><br>
                                  <br>
                                  As always, other considerations and
                                  perspectives are welcome!<span> </span><br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks,<br>
                                  Ryan<u></u><u></u></div>
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                                <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at
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                                  <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hello,<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sorry as most likely
                                      this has been already discussed,
                                      but as I came “late to the party”,
                                      there are things that I surely
                                      missed.<u></u><u></u></div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">About the need to
                                      consider CAA also in the MPDV… I’m
                                      thinking about this and I fail to
                                      see the risk we’re managing by
                                      doing it. My rational is that
                                      MPDV, once verifies the domain
                                      ownership/control, would also
                                      imply that records in the DNS
                                      (i.e. CAA) are legit.<u></u><u></u></div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The only situation I
                                      see where this could apply, is
                                      when someone could trick a CAA
                                      record during the reuse period of
                                      a previously validated domain, so
                                      MPDV could verify proper domain
                                      control, but the CAA check that
                                      must be done for each issuance is
                                      faked, but I’d say that faking the
                                      CAA could have as only logic
                                      purpose to enable another CA to
                                      issue the certificate, and that CA
                                      would also need to check the
                                      domain control using MPDV.<u></u><u></u></div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">When you decided to
                                      include CAA in the game… what was
                                      the logic behind?<u></u><u></u></div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Most likely there’s a
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                                      discussed already, so I’d
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                                      understand better.<u></u><u></u></div>
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                                    <div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></div>
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