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<p class="MsoNormal">2022-06-30 Validation Subcommittee Meeting Minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dustin volunteered to take the meeting minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Corey read the roll call<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Attendees:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Amanda Mendieta - Apple<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Andrea Holland - SecureTrust<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Ben Wilson - Mozilla<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Chris Clements - Google<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Clint Wilson - Apple<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Corey Bonnell - Digicert<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Devon O'Brien - Google<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Dustin Hollenback - Microsoft<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Hubert Chao - Google<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Janet Hines - SecureTrust<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Joanna Fox - TrustCor Systems<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Joe Ramm - OATI<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Johnny Reading - GoDaddy<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Martijn Katerbarg - Sectigo<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Michael Slaughter - Amazon Trust Services<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Michelle Coon - OATI<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Paul van Brouwershaven - Entrust<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Pekka Lahtiharju - Telia Company<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Rebecca Kelley - Apple<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9">Trevoli Ponds-White - Amazon Trust Services<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Corey read the anti-trust statement<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The previous meeting minutes were sent yesterday. Approval of those minutes will be done at the next meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Topic: Certificate Profiles<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">Corey asked where this document is going to live going forward. This is currently in Ryan Sleevi's GitHub repository. Ryan has left Google and is no longer participating in the CA/B
Forum. The concern with continuing to use Ryan's repository is that we'd need to ask him to approve Pull Requests.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">Ben Wilson suggested that we move the document as a branch under the Server Cert repository in GitHub. Corey had a similar thought and agreed with Ben.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">Corey and Ben agreed that we would pull from Ryan's branch and push a fork to the Server Cert repo.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">Corey said there's a chance that we can lose the comments in the current branch if we move<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">Clint asked if we should just leave it where it is since it may be very close to being completed.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">Trev asked if we'd be better off moving now so that any new discussions will be captured in the new place. We can ask Ryan Sleevi if he can keep the old repo online until we are done
with the work to preserve the comments if they happen to be lost with the move.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7">There were no concerns raised from the group with moving to the new repo and we will do that<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Topic: Pandoc tooling<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo3">Corey mentioned that Ryan Sleevi had done a significant amount of work with the pandoc tooling, which improves the robustness of table generation in PDFs and Word documents. This is
especially important for the current work on the Profiles ballot that uses a tabular based format. The fixes that Ryan did into the mainline version of the github actions workflow that we have.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo3">Corey suggested that we move the pandoc tooling into our github space<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo3">Corey suggested that this may be a better discussion for Infrastructure Subcommittee, but that the Validation Subcommittee is directly impacted now.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Topic: f2f Conclusions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">Corey asked for input on what approach to use to divide the work that we've identified in the f2f. There was no input.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">Side discussion about f2f meeting minutes<o:p></o:p></li><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle">
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6">Hubert asked if the minutes were still available from the f2f.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6">Corey said the draft minutes should be available on the wiki in Etherpad. We are still waiting for the final minutes to be published.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo6">Trev provided the link to the f2f agenda page which links to the draft and final minutes:
<a href="https://wiki.cabforum.org/meeting_56_agenda">https://wiki.cabforum.org/meeting_56_agenda</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo6">Corey will gather the action items and send to the mailing list. We can divide the work on the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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