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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>As discussed on today’s call, I created two Github issues to track these items:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Remove "3-second rule" for downloading CRLs for EV certificate chains (<a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/issues/345">https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/issues/345</a>)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Clean up EV Enterprise RA language (<a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/issues/344">https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/issues/344</a>)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think I captured what we discussed on the call in the issue descriptions, but please let me know if anything needs to be changed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Corey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Validation <validation-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Corey Bonnell via Validation<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 4, 2022 9:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bruce Morton <bruce.morton@entrust.com>; CABforum3 <validation@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabf_validation] Enterprise RA and EV CRL Checking<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Bruce,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for raising these points; these are areas that we should consider improving. Comments inline.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> As I assume that the CAs use the Enterprise RA to perform the same function, can we consolidate the definition and only include the definition in the BRs?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As you note, the EVG definition isn’t used anywhere, so it can be safely removed. Along with that removal, we should consider addressing some issues with Section 14.2.2. This section speaks to a “Enterprise EV Certificate” that must be issued to the Enterprise RA that lists the (Base) Domain Names for which that RA may issue EV Certificates for. There are a few problems with this section:<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>The language doesn’t explicitly require a demonstration of control of the Domain Namespace for the included domains in the Enterprise EV Certificate; a blanket permission to issue for “third and higher domain levels” is seemingly granted. Prior to the introduction of method 20, I believe all domain validation methods allowed for the reuse of validation data to validate subdomains of the Authorization Domain Name (ADN), so this was not an issue. However, since there are now several validation methods that prohibit “FQDN != ADN” validation, this appears to be a loophole.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'>14.2.2 (5) seemingly has a provision to allow signing Enterprise EV Certificates using Root CA Private Keys, contradicting Section 12’s prohibition on using Root CA Private Keys for signing EV Certificates.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> EVG 13 states “CAs MUST ensure that CRLs for an EV Certificate chain can be downloaded in no more than three (3) seconds over an analog telephone line under normal network conditions.”<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'>This requirement was in draft 11 in 2007. I believe that it was added to support dial up Windows users.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'>Is it possible that we could drop this requirement and only require BR 4.9?<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In addition to removing this antiquated language, we should also consider removing 9.7 (4), which states:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>“The cRLDistributionPoints extension MUST be present in Subscriber<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Certificates if the certificate does not specify OCSP responder locations in an<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>authorityInformationAccess extension”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>SC 31 removed the “OCSP stapling” exception to permit CAs to omit the AIA OCSP pointer. As a result, EV certificates MUST contain an OCSP AIA pointer in all cases. Thus, this language serves no purpose and could even be (mis)interpreted as allowing EV certificates to omit the OCSP AIA pointer if they contain a CRLDP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Corey<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Validation <<a href="mailto:validation-bounces@cabforum.org">validation-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Morton via Validation<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 23, 2022 2:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> CABforum3 <<a href="mailto:validation@cabforum.org">validation@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [cabf_validation] Enterprise RA and EV CRL Checking<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have a couple of low priority items which I would just like to table.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Enterprise RA and Enterprise EV RA<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9'>BR Enterprise RA definition - An employee or agent of an organization unaffiliated with the CA who authorizes issuance of Certificates to that organization.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9'>EVG Enterprise EV RA definition - An RA that is authorized by the CA to authorize the CA to issue EV Certificates at third and higher domain levels.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9'>Although EVG has added “EV” to the definition, the EVGs never reference “Enterprise EV RA”, but only “ Enterprise RA”.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9'>As I assume that the CAs use the Enterprise RA to perform the same function, can we consolidate the definition and only include the definition in the BRs?<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>EV CRL Checking:<o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'>EVG 13 states “CAs MUST ensure that CRLs for an EV Certificate chain can be downloaded in no more than three (3) seconds over an analog telephone line under normal network conditions.”<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'>This requirement was in draft 11 in 2007. I believe that it was added to support dial up Windows users.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6'>Is it possible that we could drop this requirement and only require BR 4.9?<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Bruce.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Any email and files/attachments transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If this message has been sent to you in error, you must not copy, distribute or disclose of the information it contains. <u>Please notify Entrust immediately</u> and delete the message from your system.</i> <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>