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<h2><a name="_Hlk116919592">Minutes of SMCWG<o:p></o:p></a></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">March 15, 2023<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">These are the </span>
<span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><span style="color:windowtext">Approved</span> Minutes of the Teleconference described in the subject of this message. Corrections and clarifications where needed are encouraged by reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Attendees <o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Adrian Mueller (SwissSign), Andrea Holland (VikingCloud), Andreas Henschel (D-TRUST), Ashish Dhiman (GlobalSign), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chad Ehlers (IdenTrust), Clint Wilson
(Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Dave Chin (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Don Sheehy (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Inigo Barreira (Sectigo), Judith Spencer (CertiPath), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Morad Abou
Nasser (TeleTrust), Mrugesh Chandarana (IdenTrust), Nome Huang (TrustAsia Technologies, Inc.), Patrycja Tulinska (PSW), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Renne Rodriguez (Apple), Rollin Yu (TrustAsia
Technologies, Inc.), Stefan Selbitschka (rundQuadrat)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">1. Roll Call<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">The Roll Call was taken.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">2. Read Antitrust Statement<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">The Antitrust/Compliance Statement was read.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">3. Review Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Minutes were prepared by Stephen Davidson.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">4. Approval of minutes from last teleconference<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">The minutes from the March 1 F2F are to be distributed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">5. Discussion <o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Martijn Katerbarg noted a question raised by Christophe Bonjean relating to the use of the Pseudonym in the Legacy profile as described at
</span><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/smcwg-public/2023-February/000634.html___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzoxNDY1YzA0YTBlZmUwZTczMjQ2MTU3MDNlM2ViODg2NDo2OjNjZTA6Y2NiN2RkYjRhOTJkZGU4Yjc2NzYzZWRlODYzOTJkOGI3NDg2YmViNzE2MGZiOGIxZDYzYjMxNjhlNjNjODU5ODpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/smcwg-public/2023-February/000634.html"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/smcwg-public/2023-February/000634.html</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Corey Bonnell clarified that the note 7.1.4.2.6 allowed that CAs could omit the specific attributes in the Subject but to include the same content that would otherwise have been used in those attributes
in the subject:commonName alone. In other words, a Pseudonym may be used in the CN but only if verified in accordance with the requirements of Section 3.1.3
</span><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/github.com/cabforum/smime/blob/main/SBR.md%23313-anonymity-or-pseudonymity-of-subscribers___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzoxNDY1YzA0YTBlZmUwZTczMjQ2MTU3MDNlM2ViODg2NDo2OmQ0Njc6YzY5ZWU0NTUzODNmZWFjY2UwODA5OWRhNDYxMTg2OWU2OGZhNjhkOTM0MjMxMDlkNDU2MzBjMjBlNjcwYTAzZjpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://github.com/cabforum/smime/blob/main/SBR.md#313-anonymity-or-pseudonymity-of-subscribers"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">https://github.com/cabforum/smime/blob/main/SBR.md#313-anonymity-or-pseudonymity-of-subscribers</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.25in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
<span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Legacy Generation profiles MAY omit the subject:givenName, subject:surname, and subject:pseudonym attributes and include only the subject:commonName as described in Section 7.1.4.2.2(a).<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:auto">
<span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Adrian Mueller commented that a Pseudonym used in the CN without the corresponding subject:pseudonym attribute could be confused as being a real name. He noted that in some Swiss profiles Pseudonyms
in the commonName would be prefixed by a “PSEUDO:” tag.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">The discussion of the use of QIIS posed by
</span><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/smcwg-public/2022-November/000581.html___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzoxNDY1YzA0YTBlZmUwZTczMjQ2MTU3MDNlM2ViODg2NDo2OjE5OTk6NWZkNTgyMDE2ZjMzNDFhYWUwNTExZWY5NGI2NTcwZGQ5NjRhNWFkODQ3MTM0YjYwZmFmZDQzNTIxZGZjNDA3YTpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/smcwg-public/2022-November/000581.html"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">https://lists.cabforum.org/pipermail/smcwg-public/2022-November/000581.html</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">
was tabled for a future discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Dimitris Zacharopoulos provided an update that the ETSI ESI group is working on a proposed ETSI TS 119 411-6 to make the SMIME BR auditable under the etsi regime. He noted that the intent was to
have a 1-to-1 mapping of the cert policy OIDs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Martijn raised the discussion that the WG would seek to move an erratum ballot in the near future and sought feedback from members on other items that might be included, and possible endorsers. A
draft of the changes may be seen at </span><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/github.com/srdavidson/smime/compare/ba234cef9a443716e09d2fd2dcb715b8b709dd61...7ba22046e1f13b2e45b0837725e42f2b75e3874a___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzoxNDY1YzA0YTBlZmUwZTczMjQ2MTU3MDNlM2ViODg2NDo2OjJkMmQ6OGYxOTYzODliMjA0NjUyMzQyYjQ0OTBkYmZjZDhhZTY3NGZjZDZjNjhmN2EzMGU5MjE0OWFhMGZhNzU5ZGYxNjpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://github.com/srdavidson/smime/compare/ba234cef9a443716e09d2fd2dcb715b8b709dd61...7ba22046e1f13b2e45b0837725e42f2b75e3874a"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">https://github.com/srdavidson/smime/compare/ba234cef9a443716e09d2fd2dcb715b8b709dd61...7ba22046e1f13b2e45b0837725e42f2b75e3874a</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">Corey subsequently noted that the subsection numbering in section 4.9.1.1 might be aligned with the TLS BR. (This is, in effect, a style change. There are currently several sets of numbered bullets
that restart at 1 in the SBR while the TLS BR continues the numbering across the sets).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<h3 style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">
<span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">6. Any Other Business<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">None<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592">7. Next call<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">Next call: tentative Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 11:00 am Eastern Time<o:p></o:p></span></span></h3>
<h3><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"><span lang="DE">Adjourned</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk116919592"></span><o:p></o:p></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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